Re: OT-PLANTS: exotic pest plant legislation

Linda,
That sounds about right. I am sure Trumpet Vine would not make an invasive pest plant on a list as in the time it has been here it has only a hundred square foot rooted area. That is what it has done left on it's own for a very long time. I have found other places where it has usually covered a similar space in about the same amount of time. The problem is trying to kill it. If that were a factor in invasive pests it would go near to the top of the list around here. It is genuinely tough. Also at this size it no longer blooms but tries to spread by long ground runners instead. It is no longer pretty. It can not be dug up or pulled up effectively. And the more I try to pull on it the tougher the rooted part seems to get.
Wendy
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Linda Mann 
  To: iris-talk 
  Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 5:33 AM
  Subject: [iris-talk] OT-PLANTS: exotic pest plant legislation


  I forwarded Rita G's question to the Tennessee Exotic Pest Plant Council
  & received a reply from Jack Ranney, Chair of the Invasive Plant
  Committee for SAMAB (Southern Applachian Man and the Biosphere
  Program).  SAMAB is an umbrella organization that facilitates discussion
  & research about environmental concerns among federal and private
  landowners in parts of several adjacent states (east TN, western NC,
  etc).

  He sent me quite a long reply, which I will gladly forward to anyone who
  wants to read the whole thing.  The bottom line answer to your question,
  Rita, is that he doesn't know of any websites that give both sides of
  the issue.

  Basically, he says that:

  < The issue demands more attention than it is getting.>  States have
  Exotic Pest Plant Councils that range all the way from not much to at
  least one state being sued for being overly agressive/too broad in its
  legislation.

  There needs to be more collaboration between the horticultural/nursery
  business and the Pest Plant councils. Jack sent me a copy of a document
  put together by the Missouri Botanical Garden that identifies things
  that need input from the nursery folks: problems need to be more
  accurately identified (which regions and what types of threats) and the
  nursery industry brought in to help find solutions.  Tennessee's Pest
  Plant council has gotten this kind of input & review.

  As shows in the posts here following Rita's initial question, there is a
  lot of confusion over what is meant by <exotic pest plants>, especially
  among the general public, i.e., trumpet vine is not exotic, and while it
  might be a pest in certain circumstances, it isn't invasive of 'natural'
  areas, crowding out native species.  Some species are invasive (pests)
  some places, not others; some plant common names (i.e., privet) include
  several species, some pestiferous, others not.

  Jack says <Generally, it is not USDA that is putting many species on the
  invasives
  list.  They have been slow to follow the more aggressive actions of >
  states, National Park Service etc.   The federal stuff seems to be more
  geared toward NOT <intentionally> planting invasive exotic species (like
  they used to do), but using native species instead.

  The feds are also ordering states to do their own legislation and
  perhaps that's what your speaker was concerned about.

  Conservation organizations (National Park Service, state Heritage
  Programs etc) have been mostly concerned about invasive exotic species
  in in woodlands or wildlands (i.e, parks and natural areas).

  The USDA is moving more slowly, & has mostly dealt with agricultural
  pests plants (i.e., noxious weeds).

  An additional concern: <Some green industry stakeholders [nursery
  industry, I think this means] have taken a very hard-nosed response that

  until the threat/damage can be conclusively proven (by then the horse is

  out of the barn), they should be free to sell what they want.  This
  course
  is inappropriate (gives both the green industry and the invasive plant
  control interests a bad name).]  Jack Ranney, Chair of the Invasive
  Plant Committee for SAMAB.

  Summarized and interpreted by Linda Mann east TN zone 7/8
  with apologies to Jack if I misinterpreted what he sent me




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