Re: HYB: Barry Blyth's seedlings



Linda wrote:
>'50% of seedlings better than most named varieties on the market today'

>I would think that might be true of many hybridizers seedlings,
>especially IF you compare them to older cultivars, which make up most of 
>the market.
>
>Heck, that's true even for MY seedlings - if you compare them to
>cultivars dating back far enough.  Folks tell me even my firstborn (the
>one under 3+ ft of floodwater in the photo I posted) would make a good
>historic iris.

<LOL>
Yes Linda - you are right of course. It is far too broad a statement to 
argue with. Such a broad statement needs a lot of qualifying. What does 
'better' imply? Better colours? better patterns? better growth habits? 
better form? Better bud count? Better show stalks?
Better than most named irises available on the market today only implies 
better than over 50% of those other irises. 50% of the irises named and 
'available' (if you look hard enough for them) for sale today were bred many 
years ago. By that token one would expect a top hybridiser to be able to 
produce a high percentage of seedlings that are better in some way than 
these older varieties.

I know much of Barry Blyth's work has been in line breeding. One has only to 
look over recent past catalogues to see predominant parents such as Magic 
Man, Electrique, About Town, and the most recent one playing a big role 
Louisa's Song.
Line breeding gives much more predictability and more consistency of colour, 
form, etc. It also allows one to grow fewer seedings to be successful.
I imagine that Barry would harvest far more seeds per year than it takes to 
grow 12,000 seedlings. Many crosses would be culled before they were even 
germinated.

I have taken to doing this, as it saves growing those so-so crosses and 
having them take up precious garden space for several years. I also wrench 
things out pretty early in the piece. If they are extremely poor growers - 
out they come. If the flower looks pretty uninteresting at first bloom - out 
it comes. I have chucked out SDB's that look very similar to those Barry has 
introduced and to seedlings I have seen on the iris-photo gallery. Mainly 
because I don't like the murky colours that seem to be popular. With little 
garden space I can afford to be fussy.

I have to agree with Betty that different goals would dictate different 
approaches to hybridising. I also don't think there would be much 
satisfaction in using someone elses seedlings unless your goals were very 
similar to theirs. I think half the fun and challenge is in coming up with 
something new and different, and patiently striving to achieve it yourself.
Cheers, Jan, in Aus zone 8ish

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