Re: AIS:Judges' Duties
- Subject: Re: AIS:Judges' Duties
- From: r*
- Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:55:45 -0000
Hi Walter,
Actually, I think that it is commendable that you won't vote for
something that doesn't do well in your area. That seems to be the
biggest complaint with some of the winners. I suppose that much of
the problem stems from the fact that there are so many growers in CA
and OR. (If my family would just cooperate, I'd really like to live
someplace warmer than Nebraska too)
And I'm very glad that from the judges' imput that "politics" are not
much of a factor. The Garden hours requirement sounds to be a move
in the right direction.
Robin
In Zone 4b, NE where thank goodness, the four inches of snow is
melting quickly
It surely seems that the award--- In iris-talk@y..., "wmoores"
<wmoores@w...> wrote:
>
>
> On 23 Mar 2002 at 7:39, Kitty & Bruce Loberg wrote:
>
>
> > From my perspective I can't say that I know or experience
> > "politics" or "insider control" regarding the AIS awards
system. I'm an AIS judge,
> > I get a ballot in the mail just like all other judges. I'm
allowed
> > to vote, in my home, in private, at the time I choose, and mail it
> > back in. I've never had anyone try to influence me. I believe
they
> > tally the votes as accurately as they can, and so the winners are
> > based on vote count.
>
> The same here, Kitty. As things are now and until the voting
becomes
> tallied by machines, I think we are doing the best we can with what
we have.
> There are efforts afoot to modernize, streamline, and refine the
system as soon
> as possible as the budget allows, and I am sure we all look forward
to that day.
>
>
> But sometimes it does appear that the highest
> > votes seem to come after an iris is seen growing beautifully in a
> > National convention garden...
>
> Also true. With 206 named TBs on the AM Ballot and 741 named TBs
on the HM
> Ballot plus all of the other classses, bearded and non-bearded, it
goes without
> saying that no judge can grow them all. You are going to miss
seeing a few! Thank
> goodness for conventions, and if we judges see them at two
conventions or at
> conventions and back home, and they are worthy, then the worthy
ones should be
> rewarded with our votes.
>
> The hybridizer has a responsibility, too, which is often overlooked
in discussing
> awards. If he doesn't send his creations to conventions, then the
judges shouldn't
> be griped at because they didn't vote such and such an award. And,
not all irises
> grow equally in all climates, and I cannot be held accountable for
not voting for an
> iris that just isn't adaptable to my climate.
>
> When I first read in the AIS Board Minutes about two years ago that
there was a
> proposal to split the judges into show and garden as they used to
be long ago, I was
> shocked. I became a judge as the old dual system was being phased
out. I wanted
> to vote the AIS Ballot, so I was told to select the garden category
for my judge's
> training , but the dual system was phased out before I finished.
The dual judgships
> system failed miserably in the past, so why would anyone want to
resurrect this
> dinosaur? There are simply not enough AIS judges to have the
judges divided into
> garden and exhibition. If we had several thousand judges, the dual
system might
> work, but until then, forget it. I disagree with the people who
say judges cannot be
> experts at both exhibition and garden judging. No reason was given
for defeating
> the motion to return to the past, but I, for one, am glad it was
defeated.
>
> Walter Moores
> Oakland, MS USA 7/8
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