HYB: Pink Inhibitor (was pink sdlgs from Photos)


Hello all, 
 
Here's an e-mail I'm transferring to the Talk list.  Does anyone else have input for this subject?
 
There's 2 emails below. The one at the end is input from a Photos list member about a pink supressor gene, that will allow a seedling from two pinks crossed to carry a blue tone to it, instead of pink.  My reply to that e-mail, with the added question of more info on oil vs water color pigmentation in iris is the other e-mail.
 
Thanks!
 
Adam~
 
Adam Cordes
President -- Mio Iriarians
Hillman, Michigan
Region 6
Zone 4 (and a half. . . )
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Cordesview" <cordesview@m33access.com>
To: <iris-photos@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:04 AM
Subject: HYB: Pink Inhibitor (was pink sdlng)



> Sharon,
> 
> This part/lurker new hybridizer appreciates your input on the Pink side of
> things!    Are there any other colors that react this way?  I still have a
> tricky time thinking in "water" colors vs. "oil" colors, and how they either
> mix together, or cover each other.
> 
> Will cross post this e-mail to Iris Talk as well, to get it off the Photos
> list.
> 
> Adam~
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <arilbredbreeder@cs.com>
> To: <iris-photos@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:49 AM
> Subject: RE: [iris-photos] HYB:  TB:  Pink Seedlings
> 
> 
> >
> > "FRANCELLE EDWARDS" <fjmjedwards@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >
> > >>
> > >Four of the Mesmerizer X Pink Champagne cross have bloomed already. The
> > >first that opened in February was a spectacular white. The second
> > >bloomed one muddy pink flower on a stalk that had several empty spathes.
> > >The one in the picture is the third. The fourth, which opened this
> > >morning, is a two tone blue. I can't believe it! How can that cross
> > >produce a blue? It's a poor thing that won't stay there long. None
> > >show any horns or flounces.
> >
> > Decades ago, I posed just such a question in what I thought was a
> sarcastic tone and got a detailed lecture about the genetics of pinks.  I'm
> sure you are already aware of this, but for the benefit of any lurkers who
> haven't worked with pinks themselves....
> >
> > Most pinks show that color because they have the inhibitor that blocks
> expression of the red-violet to blue-violet pigments.  It takes only one
> dose.  So when two pinks are crossed, the inhibitor may or may not be passed
> along to a given seedling.  If your two-tone blue were otherwise
> outstanding -- think substance, form, bud count, growth habits, etc. -- it
> could be a valuable parent in your quest for pinks.  All it would take is
> pairing it with a good pink that does carry the inhibitor.
> >
> > Sharon McAllister
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