Re: AIS: New AISeRobins Mailing List

In a message dated 4/30/05 9:44:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
irismoose@daylily.net writes:

<<  This statement gives the impression that AIS does sponsor the forum on 
 Yahoo >>

I don't believe that issue is in doubt; indeed, I suggest it is the essence 
of the matter. It is certainly the essence of the question I posed to Susan 
Boyce, who, in her response to Ellen Gallagher, to which I am, myself responding, 
said she had been "asked to chair the Electronic Robins." 

<<however, also on the same AIS web page is a conflicting paragraph stating:" 
While none of the groups are directly sponsored by AIS>>

And I believe that statement predates by months, if not years, the 
establishment of this group so that it is probably well not to insist on bringing it to 
bear on this matter. At the time it was written, it was accurate, it may no 
longer be so.

<< AIS could easily sponsor its own forum on the AIS domain by simply placing 
a 
 forum on the site. [. . . .]  AIS could also very easily establish and 
sponsor its own listserv forums through the AIS domain.  These listserv forum are 
operated through email similarly as the IrisTalk.>>  

Thank you for your interest, but I am sure everyone here is aware of all 
this. AIS has never been at any loss for those seeking to bring to its members 
enhanced awareness of the many possibilities of the computer age. Verily are we 
awash in techies, and all with fabulous, cutting edge ideas about how best to 
deploy the Society's limited resources. We have computer professionals all over 
the place, and we also have a lot of mailing lists for Irises started by AIS 
members, and open to the public. Some might say that sort of thing is the 
quintessential AIS pattern, starting groups independently, and reaching out to the 
public. I have always thought privately that we should rename this particular 
list, which dates to 1996, the J. Marion Shull Electronic Iris Society, and 
affiliate. 

But, to return to the question at hand, it appears the Board now thinks 
they'd also like to have an official AIS mailing list, and it is about the plans 
and policies of this official group, or groups, which I am trying to get some 
concrete information. Others are interested, too.

<< To answer one of your questions directly:  Yahoo owns any list that is 
 located on their servers regardless of who establishes the list.  I have not 
 checked the fine print but I also assume that Yahoo owns all the content of 
 every message sent through their servers as well as any images.  They also 
 have the right to use subscribers email address as they see fit.  They also 
 track subscribers through the use of "cookies" that they place on your 
 computer.>>

Yes, those are some of the very sorts of reservations about Yahoo of which I 
myself spoke when I posed, and reiterated, my questions to Ms. Boyce. 
 
Cordially,

Anner Whitehead
Richmond VA USA 

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