Re: HYB: Second Reblooming Diploid Open

Wow, I hadn't heard of a reblooming I. mellita.  

I also have a line with Kupari and was working on making a better pure white by crossing it with Taj Majal.  I haven't seen any rebloom potential but the quality of the F1 is not that great and are ALL blues.  So, I am hoping the F2 selections will have better plant qualities as well as whites.  Limited fertility though, but the seedlings from the ones that did cross seem OK so far.  Just a note (I think I have before on this list) that Taj Majal is actually a blue, not a white.

I also have a another (Taj Majal X Dogrose) line for better rose pinks and an (Swertii x I. mellita) line and am line breeding them as well.  The seedlings are coming along great with no rebloom as yet and wasn't expecting any.  I'm sure it greatly depends on the other parent and what it can contribute and may take a while to show itself.  I thought it was interesting that I got a SOME pilactas from the (Swertii x I mellita) cross.  So I. mellita must have some plicata genes in there somewhere even though there is no plicata showing and is required for the plicata genes from Swertii to compliment them and express in the flower.  Something to look at in your lines, huh?!

A big goal for me is get some I. albertii to bloom now that I have gotten it to grow and grow fairly well without rotting.  I have read that it is difficult to get seed from as pollen or pod parent so I may end up being incredibly frustrated when it does finally bloom and I can't get seed from it.  

I'm also working on creating tetraploid from all of my diploid breeding to start incorporating them into other MTB and TB lines.  I'm thinking maybe a tetraploid I. albetii might cross better than a diploid and seedlings might behave as an amphidiploid tendencies when crossed with other tetraploids as in the arilbreds.  We'll see.

I'm not all that upset about the Tom Tit seedling as I only have a vague idea of what the other parent was... one of the other handlful of diploids in the same bed and could have even been a cross with a stay pollen grain from itself as it did look very much like Tom Tit.  I tend to like planned crosses so I can know what the potential is and 
how the seedlings differ from the parents as well as register the final selected seedlings.

Tom, you had seen the I. variegata offered at Zebra Gardens that reblooms early, right?


Paul Archer
Raleigh, NC  Zone 7


-----Original Message-----
>From: thomas silvers <tesilvers@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Nov 1, 2006 7:56 AM
>To: iris-talk <iris@hort.net>
>Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: Second Reblooming Diploid Open
>
>Hello Paul,
>I think, you might be on to something here.
>Dorothy Willott has also mentioned to me, that she
>used to grow a mellita clone that rebloomed.
>As for the possible contribution from variegata,
>that's an interesting point. And maybe I'll be able to
>see if that matters or not, since I've got some lines
>started that incorporate suaveolens (rubromarginata)
>with pallida (KUPARI). No variegata in those, but so
>far no rebloom in the F1. It'll be intersting to see
>what the F2 will bring.
>Sorry to hear that you lost your reblooming seedling
>from TOM TIT, that could have been the beginning of a
>really neat line of reblooming diploids.
>Another question that has popped up for me is... the
>Iris cengialtii I used, isn't known for rebloom, but
>neither is CLOWN PANTS (at least not the Fall rebloom,
>like these two seedlings are exhibiting) but... I
>should still be able to breed more rebloomers by
>backcrossing to either cengialtii or CLOWN PANTS,
>right??
>Actually my leanings right now are to intercross these
>two and/or cross them with something (another diploid)
>that blooms fairly early and increases like mad.
>I figure that way I could maybe get the rebloom to
>happen a little earlier in the season. As for the fast
>increase, I thought that would help provide plenty of
>fans in all stages of growth.
>I welcome anyone's thoughts on this :0)
>Thanks, Tom
>
>
> 
>____________________________________________________________________________________
>We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups 
>(http://groups.yahoo.com)
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with the
>message text UNSUBSCRIBE IRIS

---------------------------------------------------------------------
To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with the
message text UNSUBSCRIBE IRIS
Other Mailing lists | Author Index | Date Index | Subject Index | Thread Index