Re: CULT: toxic Canada thistles?


>Is it not possible that the effect is simply due to robust competition from
>the thistles and shading of the clumps by their vigorous growth? 

Yes, it's possible, but I haven't allowed the few thistles in the iris 
bed to get large enough to produce any shade, and I also haven't allowed 
them to grow abundantly enough within the irises to compete anywhere near 
as aggressively as a whole bunch of other weeds (clover, dandelions, 
plantain, grasses, etc, etc, etc). None of the other weeds have had this 
effect on my irises, but when a Canada thistle comes up in the middle of 
an iris clump, all of the iris's top growth starts to die off, and the 
rhizomes go into a dormant state.  They don't begin to recover and start 
new growth until the thistle is killed.  This even happens if I keep the 
top growth of the thistle pulled or hoed out regularly.  

>While many
>plants do produce inhibitors, I don't recall this being said of Canadian
>thistle.

Me neither, but it still seems as though the Canada thistle roots must 
contain some deleterious chemical.  Of course, it could be that they're 
just so aggressive and nutrient-sapping underground that their 
competition is a lot more substantial than I realize.  Whatever the 
reason, Canada thistles and irises do NOT play nicely together in my 
garden!

Laurie


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laurief@paulbunyan.net
http://www.geocities.com/lfandjg/
zone 3b northern MN - clay soil


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