Re: Re: HYB: finding pedigrees

wmoores@watervalley.net wrote:
> 
>  . . . And getting paper moved into digital is no mean feat.  The
> project was started by Howard Hughes years ago and has accelerated since
> John took it over.  John has made significant progress. . . .
> 
> Maureen Mark
> Ottawa, Ontario
> AIS board director
> 
> Quoting from Iris Borer at the Stately Guest Manor in the Buffalo Burbs
> as found in the Mallorn Archives on Wednesday 12 May 1999:
> 
>  . . ."BUT, as far as a functioning, searchable program....he's THERE!
> And I must stress again, boyz and girlz, that Howard Hughes did this
> under his on steam, on his own initiative and on his own time.
[snip]


Walta',

I don't know what point you were trying to make, but the information
that Howard built up has never seen the light of day. He demonstrated
use of his data one time at a national convention, on his own system,
but stated the data was incomplete, and could not define a minimum
system configuration necessary to use the program.

For several years after that many different people tried to get an
update on where he was in finishing the project, to no avail. AIS
finally gave me the go ahead to start a new project. Last I heard was a
rumor that he had tossed all his data. If I could get his data I would
put it up on the website in an instant.

I am sorry if we are moving too slowly, but we are making progress.

The CD issue raises a lot of questions. I would like to hear how people
would use a CD given the following:

That a CD would contain just the data in text form of the registrations. 
It would be broken into several fields (somewhere from 3 to 7)
It would not have a search engine associated with it.
The data could be imported to any program capable of resolving "tabbed text"

What would you use the information for?
How would you access the information?
How would you search the information?
How would you conduct boolean searches?

If the CD did have a search program associated with it:
What platforms would it run on? (PC, Mac, Unix)
What operating systems and what versions?

I don't know things like:
If it had a search engine would the results of a search be downloadable
to the host machine in text format? Is that necessary? Is all the data
made resident on the host machine or does the search engine only access
data on the CD? (Is that a requirement of the license for the search engine).

Another interesting question is: Who owns the information once it is
converted to electronic form. Clearly AIS owns the copyright to the
printed versions. The people who convert it and check it have done some
significant work modifying the data, do they own the copyright on the
electronic data? I do significant work reformatting and checking the
data getting it ready for the database. Do I own the copyright on the
electronic database version?  There are significant, unresolved issues here.

I keep hearing about the AHS CD. Anyone out there have one that they
would allow me to borrow for a week or so to evaluate how it is set up?
(contact me privately)

Don't get too excited here, my immediate goal is to get the '69 thru '99
Checklists on line, followed by updating the Namelist database. Then
decide how to go about getting the current R&Is on line.

I think those items are all more important that worrying the CD problems
right now. I am not opposed to CDs, it is just that getting the data
online solves a lot of people's needs faster. (and until we get the
electronic data, we can't make the cd anyway)


John                     | "There be dragons here"
                         |  Annotation used by ancient cartographers
                         |  to indicate the edge of the known world.

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