Re: HYB: Rebloom Inheritance
- Subject: Re: HYB: Rebloom Inheritance
- From: L* M* <l*@lock-net.com>
- Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:19:06 -0400
- List-archive: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris/> (Web Archive)
Thanks to everybody for all the interesting thoughts, observations.
Betty sent me a note (I don't think she posted it?):
<The World of Irises this morning and found this line on the bottom of
142 and extending onto the top of 143.
"The reblooming trait, however, is firmly established in the lines of
current hybridizers, with many reporting rebloom from 50 to 80 % of
progeny from crosses of two reblooming parents.">
Which makes me wonder what about the others (not the "many") and why
such a wide range.
If rebloom is controlled by a large number of genes, with different
suites of genes regulating a whole suite of traits: growth rate,
response to daylength, pH, water availability, temperature... (what else
?), that would help explain a lot.
Including the observation that there is more than one set of genes that
control rebloom and that a plant has to get matching sets from its parents.
So now all we need are a few plants that are homozygous for <all> those
genes. And to be able to recognize when we have them! ;-)
Kelly, when you've got time, I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on
this.
While working on the checklist, we found quite a few Schreiner irises
reported to rebloom various places. Off the top of my head - AMITY
ESTATE, SEAKIST, CELEBRATION SONG... but it's not a long list. Gus had
some success <g>
But this may explain why I <think> I get better seedlings from things
like HoM & IMM when crossed with Schreiner introductions than from some
other material - fewer recessive dwarf rebloom genes in the pool.
<it's been told that Gus Schreiner made
search and destroy trips through the seedling beds in off seasons.
Reportedly, he carried a shovel and would dig anything blooming off
season, thus
purging rebloom from their lines.
Not totally successful >
I always figured epigenetics might explain the phenomenon so many folks
report of it taking a year or more for some cultivars to 'settle in', or
'adapt' to a different climate. And from what I read (and posted
something a few years ago?), that could certainly apply to plant
resistance to pests and disease. Known to be reversible in some kinds
of plants for some traits, not in others.
It doesn't make as much sense for rebloom, because response to drought
seems to be so reversible, at least in the rebloomers I've grown. They
may not rebloom for years, then suddenly, when conditions are more
favorable here, they do. And it also doesn't seem to make sense that an
adaptation to drought would be inherited, because several of us (me,
Betty, the Spoons, Griff, others) see rebloom in offspring of cultivars
that do not rebloom for us even tho they may reliably rebloom in
'better' climates.
--
Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8
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