RE: Flounces
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  • Subject: RE: Flounces
  • From: D* S* <p*@hotmail.com>
  • Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 07:18:14 -0600
Thank you for the responses to my questions about flounces.
Chuck, I wonder then if I should focus on using Luminata type patterns (or
other patterns with different petal color near the beard) with flounces so as
to give the appearance of a different colored flounce? Is the flounce color
more likely to be that of the tissue near the beard or that of the overall
falls color? Ibm guessing probably the color near the beard since that is
where it is originating from.

Debra Scott

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 20:05:19 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Chuck Chapman <irischapman@aim.com>
> Subject: Re: [iris] [HYB] Flounces
>
> The flounces would be same colour as the tissue they originate from. As
> they originate from falls, they have same colour as falls.
>
> Yes they are coming from beard, but the beard is modified petal tissue
> of falls. As a beard they are under control of tissue identity as
> beard. When they become petaloids, they are under control of petal
> genetics.
>
> Chuck Chapman
>

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>
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:36:30 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> From: Paul Archer <pharcher@mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: [iris] [HYB] Flounces
>
> It's only a consolation right now, but when my Iris database is complete and
published it can be sorted to tell you which varieties have tints of color in
the flounces different from the Falls. I have already noticed while entering
them that there are a few that have horns with more intense anthocyanin that
the Falls. Also some with deeper carotenoids than the norm when a white Fall
patch is present. Just from memory though.
>
> It might be possible to transfer the intensity from the horn to the flounce
much like the the beard color was "disassociated" from the petal color long
ago.
>
> Right now it would take me a couple hours to find them as they are not in a
compiled format yet and all aren't entered at the moment. They will hopefully
all be entered by end of January, then a bit of editing and you/we will be
able to search any character.
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Debra Scott <proverb_31@hotmail.com>
> To: iris <iris@hort.net>
> Sent: Wed, Oct 24, 2012 1:22 pm
> Subject: [iris] [HYB] Flounces
>
> Ibm interested in breeding for flounces, especially flounces of a
> different
> color than the primary flower color if possible. Ibm not even sure if
> it is
> possible given that the flounce is commonly a petaloid of the same
> tissue type
> as the primary petals but coming out of what would be the beard. Still,
> if we
> can have standards & falls of different colors perhaps it might be
> possible to
> develop a flounce of a different color.
>
> Does anyone have a comprehensive list of spaceage iris that
> consistently show
> a flounce? Can any of you give suggestions for potential breeding stock
> for
> flounces?
>
> I have tried to join the spaceage robin but there does not seem to be
> any
> activity there in quite some time.
>
> Which hybridizers are working on spaceage iris these days?
>
> Any suggestions will be very much appreciated.
>
> Debra Scott
> Timnath, CO z5 region 20

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