Re: HYB: REF: Helen Collingwood descendants

That sounds interesting Griff.  Do you have a photo you could post?

<Linda  --  Here's a HELEN COLLINGWOOD descendant, 02B3, a seedling
that   first bloomed this year, so I haven't yet registered it.  It's
parentage
   --  G954K13:(93B8:(Trudy x Wabash)xSweeter Than Wine) x Starring.
The HC  ancestry is through TRUDY.  --  Griff>

Neil, I am relieved to hear you haven't been washed away.  Sounds like a
major mess.  Looks like we are may be getting some floodwater effects in
this direction from watersheds in Virginia flowing into the Clinch
River!

After posting about HC, I re-read what the World of Iris has to say
about HC (barely mentioned in one sentence) and neglectas/amoenas.
Pretty much what you said, Neil.  I suspect HC wasn't used much because
the only motivation at the time would have been to get neglectas or
amoenas, which were difficult.  Presumably, crossing with other patterns
wouldn't have been as much trouble, but wouldn't have gotten anything
anybody wanted at the time.

It's exceptional durability wouldn't have been obvious for who knows how
long - decades?

As for Blyth pedigrees, some of them include things like WINE AND ROSES,
WABASH, SHAH JEHAN, umbrata/recessive amoena patterns.  Less of the
progenitor stuff, at least in older lines.  But I say that from memory,
which isn't reliable anymore.

As for fertility, the two (oops, make that three) pods from HC X
TEAMWORK had 26, 23, and 43 seeds, average to above average numbers for
pods on anything but my seedlings here and more, I think, than numbers
mentioned in the World of Iris for WABASH descendants.

TEAMWORK (Keppel 2001) is a sib to WILD WINGS, (sib to NIGHT GAME X
ROMANTIC EVENING).  Neil, I think you mentioned that RE is from both
umbrata (recessive amoena?) and I(s) (dominant amoena) breeding?  So
maybe these two just happened to fit together.  Or maybe after 50
generations of vegetative reproduction, HC has untangled her chromosomes
a bit <g>

Seeds are in the fridge....

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