Re: Re: HYB: REF: Helen Collingwood/Pink formal
- Subject: Re: [iris] Re: HYB: REF: Helen Collingwood/Pink formal
- From: &* G* C* <j*@erols.com>
- Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 22:56:50 -0400
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Neil -- How right you are. Just for example, take 02B3, the HELEN
COLLINGWOOD descendant whose photo I posted just now. There were 42 seeds
in the pod, which I planted in October, 2001. None germinated. I held the
container over for another year, and 3 seeds germinated in 2002. Two of the
sprouts survived, of which 02B3 is one. -- Griff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil A Mogensen" <neilm@charter.net>
To: "Iris-talk" <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 7:33 PM
Subject: [iris] Re: HYB: REF: Helen Collingwood/Pink formal
> Breeding with classic amoenas is a particularly frustrating experience.
In
> the controlled experiments that produced 'Bright Hour' and that generation
for
> Geddes Douglas, I believe he resorted to embryo culture at the suggestion
of
> L. F. Randolph. Germination of amoena-bred seeds is notoriously poor,
crosses
> difficult to make, and the same proportion (one or two out of hundreds if
not
> more) worth giving space to.
>
> That right there is reason enough for a derth of progeny.
>
> The other is the advent in the late fifties of the Cook Progenitor-derived
> dominant amoenas. Although they are quite different from classic amoenas
> ('Wabash' type) they can include the Umbrata from the classic amoenas and
> variegatas--witness the many such from Barry Blyth, Joe Ghio and Keith
Keppel.
> The bicolors from 'Romantic Evening' breeding have the same fall overlay
that
> is present in the early amoenas, neglectas and variegatas--at least so I
> assume.
>
> Gordon Plough did some work with the combination, as did others, including
> Cook himself.
>
> On the pinks, quite the opposite is true. The only thing that germinates
> faster or easier than pinks and their kin are plicatas.
>
> Neil Mogensen z 7 western NC mountains
>
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