Re: Re: HYB: REF: Helen Collingwood descendants

Linda  --  Yes, I discovered my oversight and sent the photo just before you
sent your message.  02B3 is a border bearded, by the way.  --  Griff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Mann" <lmann@volfirst.net>
To: "iris- talk" <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 9:29 PM
Subject: [iris] Re: HYB: REF: Helen Collingwood descendants


> That sounds interesting Griff.  Do you have a photo you could post?
>
> <Linda  --  Here's a HELEN COLLINGWOOD descendant, 02B3, a seedling
> that   first bloomed this year, so I haven't yet registered it.  It's
> parentage
>    --  G954K13:(93B8:(Trudy x Wabash)xSweeter Than Wine) x Starring.
> The HC  ancestry is through TRUDY.  --  Griff>
>
> Neil, I am relieved to hear you haven't been washed away.  Sounds like a
> major mess.  Looks like we are may be getting some floodwater effects in
> this direction from watersheds in Virginia flowing into the Clinch
> River!
>
> After posting about HC, I re-read what the World of Iris has to say
> about HC (barely mentioned in one sentence) and neglectas/amoenas.
> Pretty much what you said, Neil.  I suspect HC wasn't used much because
> the only motivation at the time would have been to get neglectas or
> amoenas, which were difficult.  Presumably, crossing with other patterns
> wouldn't have been as much trouble, but wouldn't have gotten anything
> anybody wanted at the time.
>
> It's exceptional durability wouldn't have been obvious for who knows how
> long - decades?
>
> As for Blyth pedigrees, some of them include things like WINE AND ROSES,
> WABASH, SHAH JEHAN, umbrata/recessive amoena patterns.  Less of the
> progenitor stuff, at least in older lines.  But I say that from memory,
> which isn't reliable anymore.
>
> As for fertility, the two (oops, make that three) pods from HC X
> TEAMWORK had 26, 23, and 43 seeds, average to above average numbers for
> pods on anything but my seedlings here and more, I think, than numbers
> mentioned in the World of Iris for WABASH descendants.
>
> TEAMWORK (Keppel 2001) is a sib to WILD WINGS, (sib to NIGHT GAME X
> ROMANTIC EVENING).  Neil, I think you mentioned that RE is from both
> umbrata (recessive amoena?) and I(s) (dominant amoena) breeding?  So
> maybe these two just happened to fit together.  Or maybe after 50
> generations of vegetative reproduction, HC has untangled her chromosomes
> a bit <g>
>
> Seeds are in the fridge....
>
> --
> Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8
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