RE: Angelica gigas; eupatorium 'Gateway'

Claire (or anyone), we have a small manmade pond. Would one just leave this
Gateway in the pond over winter?  Do you cut it down and sink the pot to the
bottom, or how do you handle it?  I had (?) a potentially-invasive
umbrella-type plant (large) in my pond and didn't sink the pot during the
winter; it shows no signs of life. The pot has usually been anywhere from
sticking out a couple inches to being under a couple inches over the winter.
(Everything else in there is waking up.)

Thanks!
Diann

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Subject: Re: Angelica gigas; eupatorium 'Gateway'


In a message dated 4/17/01 10:35:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mygarden@easystreet.com writes:

<< Susan,  Eupatorium 'Gateway' is big and beautiful.  A good six feet or
more.
 Dark stems and huge pink flower heads in late summer/fall.  I thought the
 angelicas were biennial also - flowering the second year and reseeding
 itself. >>
Susuan, Marilyn and All,

I have seen Eupatorium 'Gateway' with large globe shaped flowers on stalks
around five feet tall.  I have also seen what is sold as "Gateway' look
quite
different, taller, flat headed flower umbels, shorter and smaller flowers.

This is a native plant which grows in my area plentifully in swampy ditches.
I have two 'Gateway' plants purchased at different places and neither is
much
showier than the native which grows closeby in our pond.

I first saw the hybrid in Vermont at the Northhill Garden.  We were so
surprised at the size of the bloom.  Someone could not help but ask, "what
are feeding that plant".  A lot us bought 'Gateway' on the way home and I
don't know anyone who has a plant as spectacular as Northhill.  The only
advice they could offer was that it improved if not moved or divided for
many
years and that, of course, it needs lots of water.

If anyone notices catalog language that states they are handling the real
'Gateway' , I would like to know.  The orginal 'Gateway' had rounded, globe
shaped immense blooms.  Most of what is sold today looks pretty much like
the
native which is also quite nice but not the hybrid 'Gateway'.

Claire Peplowski
NYS z4

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