RE: Allium carinatum
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  • Subject: RE: Allium carinatum
  • From: &* M* <1*@rewrite.hort.net>
  • Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2022 13:27:31 -0400
Thanks Chris, 
I thought I'd checked MZ but maybe too early. I still get their catalogue but 
I stopped ordering from them years ago because every single year I ordered, 
the main item I'd placed my order for was suspiciously unavailable when it 
came time to fill my order. But I'll try for some flavum from them.

I am missing some of my old favorite nurseries but have discovered some new 
(to me) ones and rediscovered a couple I guess I'd forgotten. This year I 
tried Cascadia Iris Gardens, B&D Lilies, Hillside Nursery, Mason Hollow, and 
Dancing Oaks together with Odyssey Plants, Arrowhead, Bluestone, and Far 
Reaches.

Shipping from California (Geraniaceae.com) rivals PDN's shipping charges so 
I'm always checking where a new source is located. And I see Phoenix is in 
Canada. Any problem in that?

Well I do need some A flavum, mine seem to have dwindled. I have quite a bit 
of A carinitum pulchellum, both lavender and white colors, potted up. I hope 
they survive.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-perennials@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf 
Of Christopher P. Lindsey
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2022 11:50 AM
To: perennials@hort.net
Cc: perennials@mallorn.com
Subject: Re: Allium carinatum

Hi Kitty,

It looks like McClure & Zimmerman (mzbulb.com) has Allium flavum.

Phoenix perennials (mailorder.phoenixperennials.com) seems to have Allium 
carinatum ssp. pulchellum (including forma album), but I couldn't find the 
straight species anyhwere.

I'm also finding it very difficult to locate plants that I thought were 
common.  I feel like it's due to Proven Winners/Spring Hill/Monrovia making 
things into a monoculture -- many nurseries find it easier to just order the 
plants from those sources from their limited selections instead of adding 
more variety and growing things on from seed, cuttings, etc.  Quite a few are 
now nothing more than distribution centers.  The other problem is many of the 
smaller, more interesting nurseries closing for various reasons.  We lost Joy 
Creek, Munchkin, Crownsville, Heronswood, and many more that I can't think of 
right now. 

I was thrilled to rediscover Geraniaceae.com the other day.  I had forgotten 
all about them, but they turned up in a search for a less common plant.  I 
ended up buying 14 different geraniums.  :D

Chris


----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kitty Morrissy" <1018@rewrite.hort.net>
> To: perennials@hort.net, perennials@mallorn.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2022 10:30:04 AM
> Subject: Allium carinatum
> 
> Why does almost no one carry Allium carinatum, Allium carinatum
> subsp. pulchellum , or Allium flavum in the States anymore? I used
> to be able to get them inexpensively from the standard sources,
> VanE, JS, B&BB, and M&Z. [Russell, I think they may have been too
> mundane for Odyssey] Now, no one but Brecks seems to carry them. I’m
> not fond of that company and they list these as a mix of 5 bulbs for
> $47 – on “sale” for $20. They seem to be available in Europe.

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