RE: clematis viticella varieties

I think shade tolerant especially for clematis means it will grow and flower, just not as profusely as in the sun.

-----Original Message-----
From: Marilyn Dube [m*@easystreet.com]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 7:00 AM
To: perennials@hort.net
Subject: RE: clematis viticella varieties


Beth
The difference between the 2 is a slight variation of color.  I would
describe Polish Spirit as a dark blue-purple with a slight red bar. Etoile
Violet as a violet-purple without the bar.  The difference in color is in
the eye of the beholder.  Both are beautiful and vigorous.
As for the reds....I grow viticella 'Kermisina', a small flowered dark
velvety red that blooms in July-August here.  It is on the same trellis as
large flowered pink Nelly Moser - which blooms first.  Then Kermisina
blooms, then Nelly repeats.  It has been a good combination giving several
months of flowers on the same wall.  But my favorite mid summer red is a
jackmanii hybrid call 'Rouge Cardinale'.  It has large deep velvety garnet
blooms.  The color is so beautiful it makes my eyes water to look at it.
I have Perle d'Azur on a shady arbor, but have been disappointed in its
sparse bloom.  The color is a lovely pearly blue.  I am quite certain the
sparse bloom is due to the shade, not due to the nature of the cultivar.  I
was told it is "shade tolerant" by the grower - well, I guess if shade
tolerant means it doesn't die in the shade.....

Marilyn Dube'
Natural Designs Nursery
Portland, Oregon


-----Original Message-----
From:	owner-perennials@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of Beth
Sent:	Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:52 AM
To:	perennials@hort.net
Subject:	clematis viticella varieties

I've never grown viticella's and am eyeing the catalogs...
I know that people on this list have recommended Etoille Violette, Polish
Spirit, and Betty Corning in the past. A few questions:
1) can anyone compare Etoille Violette and Polish Spirit? They both look
similar in photos...
2) Has anyone tried Perle d'Azure ?
3) any recommendations / experiences in the white, pink, or red colors ?
I'm thinking of trying to grow them through some mature lilac shrubs...
Beth
(zone 5 Michigan near Traverse City) - where it is snowing today yet again.

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