Re: Hydrangea

Marilyn, Deer love hydrangeas any season of the year.  I do grow three
Oakleaf hydrangea because I really couldn't live without them, but I protect
the planting even though it is very far from where the deer enter the yard.
This winter it is wrapped in that black deer netting.  The oakleafs are
planted with several itea, and in the fall when they all turn color, the
contrast in colors and leaf texture will stop you in your tracks.  I've also
got one Tardiva, and protect it until it gets big and less attractive.  And
I sure am tempted by that new 'Limelight', but I can't push my luck too far.
Merri Morgan
zone 5b, WV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marilyn Dube" <mygarden@easystreet.com>
To: <perennials@hort.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:45 PM
Subject: RE: Hydrangea


>
> Merri,  that is the one pest we do not have here in the city.  In the
> suburbs, deer are a big problem.  I am sorry to hear that they like the
> flavor of Hydrangeas.  :(
>
> Marilyn Dube'
> Natural Designs Nursery
> Portland, Oregon
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-perennials@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
Behalf
> Of Merri Morgan
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:04 AM
> To: perennials@hort.net
> Subject: Re: Hydrangea
>
> Marilyn, one can never have any hydrangeas if one has deer!
> Merri Morgan
> Zone 5b, WV
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marilyn Dube" <mygarden@easystreet.com>
> To: <perennials@hort.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 1:27 PM
> Subject: RE: Hydrangea
>
>
> >
> > Claire, Ceres, Marge & Doug,
> > Do any of you grow any of the Hydrangea serratias?  They tend to be
> > smaller, most with lacecap flowers and often change color as the flowers
> > age.  My favorite is 'Preziosa'.  About 4'x4' with small serrated
leaves,
> > pink mophead flowers (do not turn blue in acidic soil) that turn ruby
red
> as
> > they age and then to top it off - burgundy leaf color in fall.  Nice in
a
> > container too.  One can never have too many Hydrangeas!  (especially if
> you
> > have a lot of shade)
> >
> > Marilyn Dube'
> > Natural Designs Nursery
> > Portland, Oregon
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-perennials@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> Behalf
> > Of ECPep@aol.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:57 AM
> > To: perennials@hort.net
> > Subject: Re: Hydrangea
> >
> > In a message dated 1/14/03 9:05:15 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> > flowers@simplegiftsfarm.com writes:
> >
> >
> > Ceres - seems to be different. Hydrangea macrophylla  'All Summer
Beauty'
> > is listed as zone 5 by Monrovia Nursery while the 'Bailmer' is listed as
> > zone 4 although there may be other sources out there that disagree with
> > ASB's zone rating as 5.  'Bailmer' is taller and wider.  As far as I can
> > figure out from the net - 'ASB' mostly blooms on new wood and there is a
> > recommendation on at least one site to cut it to the ground every
> > fall.  'Bailmer' blooms on both new and old wood.  Again, this is from a
> > brief survey and not talking to any experienced woody guy.
> >
> > Both are essentially pink but will go blue in acidic soils where they
can
> > take up all the aluminum the plant requires to go blue.  Both are
supposed
> > to have large blooms.
> >
> > Having said all that - I haven't grown either yet so will have to wait
and
> > see what the garden produces.
> >
> > Doug and Ceres,
> >
> > I thought this a good question from Ceres, I love Hydrangeas.
> >
> > Those classified loosely as big leaf Hydrangeas are under a study
> somewhere
> > in North Carolina.  Maybe the Raulston garden, he would have like this
> kind
> > of study.  I have it in a journal somewhere.
> >
> > Went and looked for the journal, it is NMPRO, a nursery magazine.  Study
> is
> > sponsored by Bailey Nurseries.  The issue is November, 2002.  They are
> > looking at big leaf Hydrangeas that will send up new wood with flower
> buds.
> >
> > 'All Summer Beauty' will not have enough time to make new wood that
> flowers
> > in zone 4 so Doug's trial plant should be of great interest.  I would
> think
> > they would trial new introductions somewhere where it is cold before
> > marketing with rebloom claims.  In the article are many named cultivars
> and
> > it seems the bloom achieved in the North is from a second flush of stems
> > after those of the preceding fall are frozen stiff here.
> >
> > For you guys who can grow big leaf Hydrangeas (any species) those of us
in
> > the North are confined to H. paniculata and selections of this species.
> > There are quite a few now, mostly of Dutch origin.  Some are quite
> beautiful
> > and one is supposed to be pink though it really is not pink.  They are
all
> > white but the forms are quite good (flowers) and the selected shrubs are
> all
> > superior to H. paniculata, species form.
> >
> > Anybody who succeeds in short season area with a big leaf Hydrangea,
> please
> > tell us.
> >
> > Claire Peplowski
> > NYS z4
> >
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