Re: Japanese Maple query
perennials@hort.net
  • Subject: Re: Japanese Maple query
  • From: <l*@wi.rr.com>
  • Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:44:22 +0000
If you are fortunate enough to find someone's discarded Christmas tree, I'd 
think that evergreen boughs would work well.

Don Martinson


---- Alyce Elliott <aete@northnet.org> wrote: 
> Lil, the only thing light enough not to crush 
> those roots, that I can think of, is mulch.  To 
> hold the mulch in place, you can put milk bottles 
> filled with water around the area first, then 
> fill with a light mulch.  Maybe someone can think 
> of something better than the milk bottles (my 
> ground is frozen solid so I'd have to use something above ground.)
> Zone 4 northern NY
> 
> At 09:13 AM 1/15/2012, you wrote:
> >Hi Nancy - I never had a problem with the 
> >porcelain vine getting out of control. Every 2 - 
> >3 years I'd get a couple of seedlings but never 
> >enough to cause any problem - they were easy to yank out.
> >
> >I keep looking out my window at a poor dwarf 
> >Japanese Maple (Baby Lace) I planted last 
> >summer. I actually took the time to wrap it for 
> >its first year. Somehow the wind has knocked it 
> >over, and its lying on an angle with part of the 
> >root exposed. I don't dare touch it as I'd be 
> >sure to snap roots. The burlap seems to cover 
> >the exposed bits. Wonder if there is any chance 
> >of survival? Spent over 100.00 on this little one -
> >
> >Lil T.
> >Georgetown ON
> >Z5
> >
> >
> >----------
> >From: robyn82@bellsouth.net
> >To: perennials@hort.net
> >Subject: Re: Ideas for an arbor
> >Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 23:44:57 -0500
> >
> >Hi, all.  Just wondered if the porcelain vine is 
> >invasive that far up north.  It is in 
> >Tennessee.  The Akepia filled up 7 truck loads 
> >and still is running around on the mountain 
> >side.  It is not making seed but the vines were 
> >going across the creek and I could see it taking 
> >over a mountain side in 15 years.
> >My native honeysuckles would fill an arbor and 
> >not be too heavy.  Also have a white jasmine 
> >that is hardy here to 0.  It just does not grow 
> >fast enough to make a nice screen though.
> >I can see we are all dreaming about planting 
> >something....anything now.  Got all those evergreens to get out soon, 
> >myself.
> >Nancy  Tennessee
> >Original Message -----
> >From: <l*@hotmail.com>lil tovey
> >To: <p*@hort.net>Perennials @ hortnet
> >Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 7:30 PM
> >Subject: RE: Ideas for an arbor
> >
> >I agree about the porcelain vine. I had one at 
> >my last house, and the variegation was great, 
> >and then the bonus of those wonderful coloured 
> >berries each fall.  It was a favourite. Took a 
> >couple of years to get established but did 
> >perfectly fine. Was mostly shade and didn't seem 
> >to mind at all.  Hmmm - now that I have a very 
> >tiny garden, maybe it can be a "vertical Interest"
> >
> >Lil Taggart
> >Georgetown ON
> >z 5
> >
> >
> >----------
> >Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:10:47 -0500
> >To: perennials@hort.net
> >From: aete@northnet.org
> >Subject: Re: Ideas for an arbor
> >
> >Don, one of my favorite vines:
> >
> >Ampelopsis brevipedunculata var. maximowiczii 
> >'Elegans', which I simply call my porcelain berry.
> >
> >I grow this on an arbor at the entrance of my 
> >front walk here in northern NY zone 4, though it 
> >is a zone 5--9 plant (I live right next to a 
> >river).  The leaves are gorgeous, variegated, 
> >deeply cut.  The small greenish-white flowers 
> >are attractive.  The berries are amazing but not 
> >as nice as they'd be with more sun than they get 
> >here.  Grows 10--20 feet, but only about 12' 
> >here.  Having said all that, I'm sure this vine 
> >would be even happier in your zone 5.  It gets 
> >started later than the kiwi vine across from it 
> >(which also gets some white and pink in its leaves.)
> >
> >Replying to your 5 points:
> >1. I love the look of your non-'chateau'!  Might 
> >it be an old Queen Anne Victorian?
> >
> >2 & 3. My arbor has the same aspect as yours, 
> >but it does not have a house right behind it.  I 
> >have the following quote copied to my porcelain 
> >berry culture sheet: "An attractive variegated 
> >form with white and pink splashes on the leaves, 
> >tends to not fruit as well as the type and is 
> >less vigorous."  So far the kiwi has reached up 
> >and across the top of the arbor while the 
> >porcelain berry is just beginning to reach 
> >over.  The kiwi takes constant pruning, the 
> >porcelain berry only needs directing.
> >
> >4 & 5. I've never had Akebia so can't compare it 
> >to Ampelopsis. I have Campsis, Celastrus, 
> >various Clematis, Lonicera, Hydrangea 
> >petiolaris, Euonymous -- and the Ampelopsis is 
> >one of my favorites.  Hmm, maybe there's a 
> >Clematis viticella for your situation?  I have a 
> >C. Hagley Hybrid that faces north on the front 
> >of a pavilion and has done great for years, 
> >(unlike some of my clematis) however, it may not 
> >grow high enough for your situation -- 8-10'.
> >6. My "less vigorous" Ampelopsis etc. 'Elegans' 
> >can take far colder temps than what is listed.
> >
> >Let us know what you finally choose!  Hope we see a finished-project photo.
> >
> >Best,
> >Alyce Elliott
> >near Oxbow, northern NY
> >
> >
> >
> >At 04:24 PM 1/10/2012, you wrote:
> >I came upon the following photo from a catalog:
> >
> ><http://www.tinyurl.com/7olll9t>http://www.tinyurl.com/7olll9t
> >
> >
> >This gave me an idea to create an arbor over my 
> >rear door and small deck (the black lines are for reference only):
> >
> ><http://www.tinyurl.com/6vw2kre>http://www.tinyurl.com/6vw2kre
> >
> >Issues (construction and materials aside):
> >
> >1.  Obviously, I don't happen to own a chateau at the moment.
> >
> >2.  The deck faces a direction which is 
> >approximately East-Northeast and only receives a 
> >bit of morning sun, although plants on the deck 
> >seem to do relatively well as it is a bright shade.
> >
> >3.  The small patch of open ground (indicated on 
> >the second photo) gets no sun at all, and so 
> >whatever I plant won't get ANY direct sunlight 
> >until it gets above the level of the deck.
> >
> >4.  I'm thinking some sort of perennial vine, 
> >probably woody, but not so rampant that it will 
> >require constant pruning (so, no Wisteria or 
> >Vitis).  IÂd consider Akebia quinata , but I 
> >already have 2 of those (purple and white), and 
> >they do quite well along the north side of my house.
> >
> >5.  IÂd consider other species of Akebia if they 
> >would look a bit different (trifoliata?) or even 
> >the variegated A. quinata (does anyone know of a 
> >source of a nice clone of this)?
> >
> >6.  I live in Milwaukee (Zone 5) and despite our 
> >very mild winter so far, we can normally expect 
> >temps down to Â10F (-25C) or even lower.
> >
> >Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> >
> >
> >Don Martinson
> >Wauwatosa, WI  53213
> >[]
> >
> >Supporting the Organization for Tropical Studies
> >


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