Am sure I saw a discarded tree earlier this week - will have to
go check, otherwise will try to find some mulch.
> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:44:22
+0000
> From: l*@wi.rr.com
> To: p*@hort.net
> Subject: Re:
Japanese Maple query
> CC: a*@northnet.org
>
> If you
are fortunate enough to find someone's discarded Christmas tree, I'd think
that evergreen boughs would work well.
>
> Don Martinson
>
>
> ---- Alyce Elliott <aete@northnet.org> wrote:
>
> Lil, the only thing light enough not to crush
> > those roots,
that I can think of, is mulch. To
> > hold the mulch in place, you
can put milk bottles
> > filled with water around the area first,
then
> > fill with a light mulch. Maybe someone can think
>
> of something better than the milk bottles (my
> > ground is
frozen solid so I'd have to use something above ground.)
> > Zone 4
northern NY
> >
> > At 09:13 AM 1/15/2012, you
wrote:
> > >Hi Nancy - I never had a problem with the
>
> >porcelain vine getting out of control. Every 2 -
> > >3
years I'd get a couple of seedlings but never
> > >enough to
cause any problem - they were easy to yank out.
> > >
> >
>I keep looking out my window at a poor dwarf
> > >Japanese
Maple (Baby Lace) I planted last
> > >summer. I actually took the
time to wrap it for
> > >its first year. Somehow the wind has
knocked it
> > >over, and its lying on an angle with part of the
> > >root exposed. I don't dare touch it as I'd be
> >
>sure to snap roots. The burlap seems to cover
> > >the
exposed bits. Wonder if there is any chance
> > >of survival?
Spent over 100.00 on this little one -
> > >
> > >Lil
T.
> > >Georgetown ON
> > >Z5
> >
>
> > >
> > >----------
> > >From:
robyn82@bellsouth.net
> > >To: perennials@hort.net
> >
>Subject: Re: Ideas for an arbor
> > >Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012
23:44:57 -0500
> > >
> > >Hi, all. Just wondered if
the porcelain vine is
> > >invasive that far up north. It is in
> > >Tennessee. The Akepia filled up 7 truck loads
> >
>and still is running around on the mountain
> > >side. It is
not making seed but the vines were
> > >going across the creek
and I could see it taking
> > >over a mountain side in 15
years.
> > >My native honeysuckles would fill an arbor and
> > >not be too heavy. Also have a white jasmine
> >
>that is hardy here to 0. It just does not grow
> > >fast
enough to make a nice screen though.
> > >I can see we are all
dreaming about planting
> > >something....anything now. Got all
those evergreens to get out soon, myself.
> > >Nancy
Tennessee
> > >Original Message -----
> > >From:
<mailto:liltovey@hotmail.com>lil tovey
> > >To:
<mailto:perennials@hort.net>Perennials @ hortnet
> > >Sent:
Saturday, January 14, 2012 7:30 PM
> > >Subject: RE: Ideas for an
arbor
> > >
> > >I agree about the porcelain vine. I
had one at
> > >my last house, and the variegation was great,
> > >and then the bonus of those wonderful coloured
> >
>berries each fall. It was a favourite. Took a
> > >couple of
years to get established but did
> > >perfectly fine. Was mostly
shade and didn't seem
> > >to mind at all. Hmmm - now that I have
a very
> > >tiny garden, maybe it can be a "vertical
Interest"
> > >
> > >Lil Taggart
> >
>Georgetown ON
> > >z 5
> > >
> >
>
> > >----------
> > >Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012
12:10:47 -0500
> > >To: perennials@hort.net
> > >From:
aete@northnet.org
> > >Subject: Re: Ideas for an arbor
>
> >
> > >Don, one of my favorite vines:
> >
>
> > >Ampelopsis brevipedunculata var. maximowiczii
>
> >'Elegans', which I simply call my porcelain berry.
> >
>
> > >I grow this on an arbor at the entrance of my
>
> >front walk here in northern NY zone 4, though it
> > >is
a zone 5--9 plant (I live right next to a
> > >river). The leaves
are gorgeous, variegated,
> > >deeply cut. The small
greenish-white flowers
> > >are attractive. The berries are
amazing but not
> > >as nice as they'd be with more sun than they
get
> > >here. Grows 10--20 feet, but only about 12'
>
> >here. Having said all that, I'm sure this vine
> >
>would be even happier in your zone 5. It gets
> > >started
later than the kiwi vine across from it
> > >(which also gets
some white and pink in its leaves.)
> > >
> >
>Replying to your 5 points:
> > >1. I love the look of your
non-'chateau'! Might
> > >it be an old Queen Anne
Victorian?
> > >
> > >2 & 3. My arbor has the same
aspect as yours,
> > >but it does not have a house right behind
it. I
> > >have the following quote copied to my porcelain
> > >berry culture sheet: "An attractive variegated
> >
>form with white and pink splashes on the leaves,
> > >tends
to not fruit as well as the type and is
> > >less vigorous." So
far the kiwi has reached up
> > >and across the top of the arbor
while the
> > >porcelain berry is just beginning to reach
> > >over. The kiwi takes constant pruning, the
> >
>porcelain berry only needs directing.
> > >
> > >4
& 5. I've never had Akebia so can't compare it
> > >to
Ampelopsis. I have Campsis, Celastrus,
> > >various Clematis,
Lonicera, Hydrangea
> > >petiolaris, Euonymous -- and the
Ampelopsis is
> > >one of my favorites. Hmm, maybe there's a
> > >Clematis viticella for your situation? I have a
>
> >C. Hagley Hybrid that faces north on the front
> > >of a
pavilion and has done great for years,
> > >(unlike some of my
clematis) however, it may not
> > >grow high enough for your
situation -- 8-10'.
> > >6. My "less vigorous" Ampelopsis etc.
'Elegans'
> > >can take far colder temps than what is
listed.
> > >
> > >Let us know what you finally
choose! Hope we see a finished-project photo.
> > >
> >
>Best,
> > >Alyce Elliott
> > >near Oxbow, northern
NY
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >At
04:24 PM 1/10/2012, you wrote:
> > >I came upon the following
photo from a catalog:
> > >
> >
><http://www.tinyurl.com/7olll9t>http://www.tinyurl.com/7olll9t
>
> >
> > >
> > >This gave me an idea to create an
arbor over my
> > >rear door and small deck (the black lines are
for reference only):
> > >
> >
><http://www.tinyurl.com/6vw2kre>http://www.tinyurl.com/6vw2kre
>
> >
> > >Issues (construction and materials aside):
>
> >
> > >1. Obviously, I don't happen to own a chateau at
the moment.
> > >
> > >2. The deck faces a direction
which is
> > >approximately East-Northeast and only receives a
> > >bit of morning sun, although plants on the deck
>
> >seem to do relatively well as it is a bright shade.
> >
>
> > >3. The small patch of open ground (indicated on
>
> >the second photo) gets no sun at all, and so
> >
>whatever I plant won't get ANY direct sunlight
> > >until it
gets above the level of the deck.
> > >
> > >4. I'm
thinking some sort of perennial vine,
> > >probably woody, but
not so rampant that it will
> > >require constant pruning (so, no
Wisteria or
> > >Vitis). I’d consider Akebia quinata , but I
> > >already have 2 of those (purple and white), and
>
> >they do quite well along the north side of my house.
> >
>
> > >5. I’d consider other species of Akebia if they
>
> >would look a bit different (trifoliata?) or even
> >
>the variegated A. quinata (does anyone know of a
> > >source
of a nice clone of this)?
> > >
> > >6. I live in
Milwaukee (Zone 5) and despite our
> > >very mild winter so far,
we can normally expect
> > >temps down to –10F (-25C) or even
lower.
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance for any
suggestions.
> > >
> > >
> > >Don
Martinson
> > >Wauwatosa, WI 53213
> > >[]
>
> >
> > >Supporting the Organization for Tropical
Studies
> > >
>
>
>
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