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questions

Greetings:  We are living in a new/old place, which had some plantings
already;  there is a Joe Pye plant growing on the bank of the stream, and I
recently read here that if you try to take it out it will send out suckers;

my first question is about what looks like Joe Pye also, but it's growing
all over the place, and not in a bush but in single stalks; also the plant
is not exactly the same as the Joe Pye bush in that it's stems are more
slender, and the leaves aren't as hairy; does anyone know if the Joe Pye's
suckers would be likely to look different than the mother plant?

my second question has to do with some very pretty succulent-type plants
that are all over the edge of the woods places; they're light green and grow
to about l&1/2 feet high; can anayone tell me what they're called?

TIA

Isabelle Hayes

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