RE: Echinops

I'm in Oregon, east of Portland.  Most people consider this area a 7 or 8
zone, but I live near the Columbia Gorge and we get some wicked winds and
ice often in the winter.  Short lived, but lots of damage.  And the wet here
kills as much as the cold ever does.  I don't like losing plants, so I count
myself a 6b.  I do have some zone 7 plants that have survived, but they are
woody vines/shrubs.  Not perennials.

My garden is my "heaven on earth" until I get to the REAL place!

Susan Saxton, zone 6b

For mine is a little old-fashioned garden where the flowers come
together to praise the Lord and teach all who look upon them to do
likewise.
Celia Thaxter

I AM in shape.  ROUND is a shape!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doreen Knihnicky [k*@mail.med.upenn.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 10:48 AM
> To: perennials@mallorn.com
> Subject: RE: Echinops
> 
> 
> Thanks Susan,
> 
> and where might zone 6b be? Your garden sounds heavenly.
> 
> Doreen
> >They need full sun in my PNW garden.  As is typical with 
> perennials, they
> >won't do much the first year.  Thereafter, they will reach 
> full size and
> >start to bloom about July for me.  I grow them for drying -- they are
> >wonderful in wreaths and arrangements.  Pick them when they 
> are steel blue
> >and needle-like in the flower formation.  Once the "needles" 
> begin to open
> >they turn a beautiful blue, and reseed nicely, but they 
> shatter on drying.
> >
> >My mature height is about 5'.  They are behind a 'Pilgrim' 
> rose (yellow,
> >David Austin) with sedum 'Autumn Joy' in the combination.  
> Great mid-summer
> >color.
> >
> >Susan Saxton, zone 6b
> >
> >For mine is a little old-fashioned garden where the flowers come
> >together to praise the Lord and teach all who look upon them to do
> >likewise.
> >Celia Thaxter
> >
> >I AM in shape.  ROUND is a shape!
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Doreen Knihnicky [k*@mail.med.upenn.edu]
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 7:42 AM
> >> To: perennials@mallorn.com
> >> Subject: Echinops
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Anyone have experience with this. I ordered it from 
> >> garden.com. I liked the
> >> way it looked and loved the color and I have never seen it in 
> >> my area. I'm
> >> always more attracted to the unusual. Anyway since I 
> planted it in the
> >> spring (gets six hours of sun) it hasn't changed, grown, 
> >> bloomed, or for
> >> that matter wilted. Anyone know what I might expect. 
> >> 
> >> Always hopeful, not knowing what to expect when is exciting, 
> >> and many times
> >> worth the wait.
> >> 
> >> Doreen
> >> 
> >> 
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