Re: Perennials In High Temps/Humidity
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- Subject: Re: Perennials In High Temps/Humidity
- From: M* T*
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 00:10:55 -0400
Bob, agree that good ref. books are invaluable and I try to collect
all that I can afford. What I'm after is personal experience from
around the map...can't actually beat that:-) Most ref. books reflect
the understanding of one person - the author - unless it's a
compendium of many authors...and sometimes it's basically a
regurgitation of research done in the works of other authors. Even
the experts have their limitations. One of the prime marvels of our
email lists is that we can gather the experience of people in totally
diverse parts of the US and the world, in the first person, so to
speak.
Claire...you make me feel a tad better about killing C. canadensis so
often. Decided the last attempt was the end; can't bear torturing
that plant anymore.
Sue, your point is also most interesting, re: altitude differences
and, Claire I wonder if that isn't part of why it wouldn't transplant
for you. Realize the soil requirements, etc. play a part.
So, seems we are confirming that not only summer temperatures
(perhaps), but altitude and growing conditions differing extremely
from the native ones play a part in whether certain plants will grow
in our gardens....from what all of you are saying, think this applies
particularly to C. canadensis....Janet can't grow it in CT and it's
probably soil related as well as altitude.
As for Alchemilla alpina, now...that one may be climate related if
you're having no problems with it in upstate NY, Claire. It melts
away for me same as C. canadensis. Wyman says the common name for
this is mountain lady's mantle and Hortus III says it hails from the
mountains of Europe...hmmm..wonder if we have an altitude situation
here, too.
I've also had the same problem with Alchemilla erythropoda, for which
I'm not finding a US zone designation but Flora Europaea says it's
found in Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and Crimea...doesn't
say *where* in these areas as in mountains or what...I got my last
one from Ellen Hornig who is in upstate NY.
As I recall A. erythropoda from my last attempt, it is visually
similar to A. alpina as far as leaf size. Have no clue on flowers
for either of these as they never stuck around long enough to produce
any.
Another northerner that faded away over a period of years was
Andromeda polifolia 'Nana' (bog rosemary). Now, I realize this is a
plant requiring moist to boggy, very acid soil and I gave it
that..made a special bed that I could keep always moist with a high
percentage of peat and sand. Figured it was the heat and humidity
that it hated, although the poor things took nearly 10 years to
finally waste away to nothing. I don't feel too badly about this one
as Dirr says he managed to kill it in Illinois in a peat/sand bed and
thinks that heat and humidity are not to its liking - which
reinforces (somewhat) my original theory here, since it is hardy to
zone 2.
Any of you growing this one successfully or not?
Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
mtalt@clark.net
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> From: BOB CAMPBELL <llebpmac_bob@hotmail.com>
> Date: Saturday, May 20, 2000 2:56 PM
>
> Marge, the first thing I do when I get interested in something is
acquire
> books on the subject. And I keep on acquiring anything I can afford
that
> strikes my fancy.
>
>
> >From: "Marge Talt" <mtalt@clark.net>
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