Re: Roses -Reply -Reply

Hi Devon and others who are interested in
shade-tolerant roses.  These are my experiences:

I have a 70 x 100 ft. lot and live in 6b, the Pacific
Northwest (for cultural purposes) so it is "primo"
rose country, but also WET!  Most of my roses are
old roses, almost no hybrid teas.

I have grown under trees, competing with tree roots
(about 5' away from mature trees):

Cornelia, Penelope and Moonlight, all hybrid
musks; Golden Showers, Voodoo, Handel and Don
Juan (teas) and Souv. du Dr. Jamin (an old climber
that REQUIRES shade to keep its incredible
burgandy color).

Against the north side of my house, which gets very
little light I have grown:

Mdm. Gregoire Stachelin (gets little direct light,
growing slowly, but growing) and

Darlow's Enigma (absolutely no direct light and
positively thriving and blooming like crazy, even
now).

In the northeast corner of my house, which gets no
light but is not under trees are:

Awakening (a climber and sport of 'New Dawn')
and
Zephrine Droughan.  Warning here, Zeph is
growing and blooming, but suffering from powdery
mildew (which she is notorious for).  I think in a
better location she would do better.

Roses still growing and blooming in spite of major
competition from mature shrubs, perennials, etc.
(getting very little direct light, certainly less than the
5-6 required, and very little elbow room) are
Climbing Iceberg,  Louise Odier and Gruss an
Aachen.

Most of my roses are own root roses purchased
through Heirloom Old Garden Roses in St. Paul,
Oregon.  Their catalogue marks roses that are
shade tolerant (and there are bunches of them); the
catalogue is worth its weight in gold to a rose
grower.

Hope this helps.

Susan Saxton

For mine is just a little old-fashioned garden where
the flowers come together to praise the Lord and
teach all who look upon them to do likewise.
Celia Thaxter
1835-1894


>>> "Miller, Devon" <dmiller@kilstock.com>
10/10/98 06:10am >>>
Do you have any suggestions for roses that will do
well in less than
full sun?

Devon Miller
zone 7
Chevy Chase, MD
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From: WJJF77B@prodigy.com
To: perennials@mallorn.com
Subject: Re: Roses -Reply
Date: Thursday, October 08, 1998 8:00PM

Susan wrote:

>Good thing there's always "mail order." ;-)<


My introduction to growing my own roses came
from a gift certificate for two roses from Heirloom
Old Garden Roses. You can imagine the difficulty
I had in choosing! Their catalog is full of wonderful
descriptions and beautiful color pictures. Of course,
I wanted them all <G>

After some thought and a dog-eared catalog later,
I chose the climber Zephirine Drouhin and the
hybrid
rugosa Rugelda. The Zephirine Drouhin has
survived
two (yes two!) moves and the Rugelda just amazes
me
with its beautiful blooms.

Needless to say, the current catalog is also dog-
eared and I already have the spots picked out
for my next three roses. Picked the spots is
proving to be much easier than picking the
roses, needless to say! Thankfully I have all
winter to ponder over the catalog. Reading all
your notes is very helpful, let's keep this rose
thread going :)

Trish
Western WA

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