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RE: glyphosate

Whatever the merits of Laurin Wheeler's point about kudzu may be, 
I believe she is correct that the lymphoma connection is to 2,4 D, 
not to RoundUp. James T.

On 5 Apr 01, at 22:03, Laurin Wheeler wrote:

> I personally don't know if Round Up will control the listed plants,
> but I personally think that Kudzu is a plant that is to be enjoyed
> rather than poisoned.  Some people even claim that it is good to eat. 
> It looks too fuzzy to eat.  When I was much younger, I lived near some
> people that had a pasture on some very steep ground.  It was covered
> with kudzu.  This seemed to bother them.  They attacked it with fire
> and to a lesser degree with a tractor.  The hill was so steep that
> they could only attack the edges of the kudzu with the tractor.  They
> could run cows on the area.  Sometime around 1960, they discovered
> chemical herbicides.  The last time I saw the area was in the early
> 1970's the owners had managed to kill the kudzu.  They had nothing
> growing on the area, and gullies were developing over the entire
> pasture.  There was nothing for cow left on the site.
> 
> I don't understand the the message that seems to be about "sick
> ecosystems or sick soil."  I am a plant ecologist, but I don't recall
> hearing how invasive plants are attracted to sick ecosystems or soil. 
> I would be interested in hearing more about the other materials in
> Roundup and lymphoma.  I thought that 2,4-D was associated with
> lymphoma. Laurin Wheeler 1635 W. Shadowridge Dr. Fayetteville, AR
> 72701
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: owner-prairie@mallorn.com [o*@mallorn.com]On
> Behalf Of Ed and Gale
>   Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 5:15 PM
>   To: prairie group
>   Subject: glyphosate
> 
> 
>   We belong to an environmental group and are currently in the middle
>   of a rather heated debate about invasive exotic plants in natural
>   areas on
> public
>   land and the use of glyphosate to control them. Some folks are
>   opposed to the use of any chemical in any way and others see the
>   treat of exotics as
> so
>   great that they are willing to use Round Up selectively.
> 
>   I was wondering if anyone on this group can help with any expertise
>   or
> info.
>   What are the long term effects of glyphosate on plants and soil? Are
>   there any health risks to humans and animals? What are your thoughts
>   on using Round Up to control garlic mustard, kudzu, and other
>   invasives if it's
> used
>   selectively and applied by hand?
> 
>   Thank you for your imput.
>   Gale Cook
>   Southern Illinois
> 
> 

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