Re: GPC Squash Determination
It's amazing that everything that starts out as fun cheap hobby, gets taken
over by people who love to create organizations that finally become
political and ruin the fun. It seems that we are not far from the day when
seeds are not given away for free or trade of another seed. People will
more often grow for money, and not for hobby. Why don't we not get sponsors
for our pumpkin growing hobby? Who cares if there isn't any prize money? I
don't, and many others don't either. Perhaps the growers here should not
get their pumpkins weighed in at weigh-offs that give away money. Perhaps
we should all stop buying seeds. I think the politics would die down pretty
fast if the money was taken out. I think the quest to have one's name after
the weight of their pumpkin with others using their seeds is enough to push
this hobby. I don't think sponsors or prizes are needed at all.
Greg
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Paul Huffer" <phuffer@insight.rr.com>
Reply-To: pumpkins@hort.net
To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
Subject: Re: GPC Squash Determination
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 07:45:16 -0500
> Truth is: Atlantic Giant had plenty of off color specimens early on -
yes -
> SQUASH! Howard Dill bred Atlantic Giants and Show King at the same time
in
> the same place.
Ray,
Thank you very much ( I sincerly mean that)
This is all I was trying to prove to everyone, the money issue that got
blown out of proportion was not MY intent. The money means nothing to me.
And anyone who really knows me understands that.
I was just trying to show everyone that they are basically the same (
pumpkins & squash) & when a pumpkin throws a "squmpkin" there is a reason it
does so.
And some of todays growers are just as guilty by crossing "tweeners" with
thicker walls & orange ones hoping to create a nice thick orange pumpkin.
And it does work, but it will also throw "squmpkins". So my basic idea is
to just sit back & enjoy them all. People who spend all their time in the
patch & get a "tweener" worked just as hard as those got orange ones.
It's a crap shoot & there are no guarentees for color ( not 100%) because
of the past. No matter what the rules there will always be ways around it
unless there is only 1 class & we all know that will never happen. So until
the day that happens I'll just grow my pumpkins AND squash & enjoy what I've
accomplished.
In time the money goes away, but the memories of your accomplishment stays
with you forever. Lets not mar that with memories of a argument at the
weighoff also.
Paul Huffer
( proud grower of ALL vegetables)
----- Original Message -----
From: <LGOURD@aol.com>
To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: GPC Squash Determination
> Truth is: Atlantic Giant had plenty of off color specimens early on -
yes -
> SQUASH! Howard Dill bred Atlantic Giants and Show King at the same time
in
> the same place.
>
> Truth is: No matter what the rules are Topsfield will break them if it
does
> not fit into their promotional agenda ( for the long term or for a
specific
> day), because Hugh Wiberg is committed to a sponsor. Heck, in 1989 they
> kicked out the World Record Holder because of prize money (and
promotion)!
> The Topsfield Fair signed a legal license agreement with the WPC and
broke
13
> items in the agreement. That is why Topsfield was kicked out of the WPC
and
> Ray Waterman became the bad guy and a character assination was begun in
the
> name of the "Great Pumpkin Commonwealth"! Now you have Hugh Wiberg
running
> the whole mess and doing the same thing - wake up!
>
> Truth is: You can make all the rules you want and it won't make any
> difference.
>
> Ray Waterman
>
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