Re: List owners comments
Please take this issue to a chat room, to a phone nearest you, or some where
else where administrative related things can be run, not in an open forum. The
ill effects this conversation has on the general public can become very harmful
to the always friendly atmosphere this list provides. I for one hope there is a
second list, but please dont ruin this list. I have been clinging on every word
in here for nearly 2 years, and enjoy the banter and have learned a bunch of
info, but airing this out in an open forum cannot be good for growers who come
here for the growing tips. I suggest using either private email, phone, chat
room through ICQ, POWOW, or some other chat service(maybe on needs to be set up
for auctions, administative purposes, or 1400 pound pumpkins. I for one, look
forward to 35 emails eachnite, as I invite those into my home each nite, I laugh
I learn.
Rocky Rockwell
ICQ 1815098
Get ICQ @ http://www.miribilis.com
Mike Stephenson wrote:
> > 3) Rather than stewing over an issue for several days and then suddenly
> > taking action without trying to work out problems, members in
> > disagreement can send the listowner or the company that runs the
> > list a message saying "But we'd really like this..."
>
> I did send such a message to the listowner, it didn't work. Then You said no
> auctions. I took that as the end of the conversation. No "stewing" involved.
> Having twice been told no auctions I got the message, no auctions. :-) With
> conversations over, action taken, new list formed. Very simple.
>
> > However, I can say that if someone had come to me asking for another
> > list at Mallorn specifically for seed exchanges or bidding, I probably
> > would have set one up. Fact is, I received a half dozen emails supporting
> > my comments and not a single one refuting it, so I had no way of knowing
> > that anyone felt as you do.
>
> Now I am confused??? If Duncan's list can't have auctions because of "the
> ISP" disk space issue
> how does a new list change anything. I thought the reason was also a money
> issue, but
> maybe it has more to do with auctions, and the question of who is interested
> in auctions, and who is not. Since auctions about pumpkin seeds are
> certainly on the topic of pumpkins then those who don't want to know about
> the auction, or mushroom compost, or so-in-so's seed list can just hit the
> delete button.
>
> > Regarding money, Duncan was probably wrong in mentioning that as an issue
> > too. He may not have understood Mallorn's reasons for supporting
> > the list,
> > which is part of the reason that I sent out my response. But he is
> > ultimately the listowner, and for that reason alone what he says goes
> > regarding content.
>
> Sorry, confused again. Are you saying, as far as you are concerned,
> auctions, and the disk space they may consume, are OK with you??? Thus, if
> auctions OK with Duncan, then we only need one list? (I am good, very good,
> with only one list.)
>
> > > A second list can't hurt pumpkin
> > > growing. It certainly isn't meant as a way to hurt Duncan's list, rather
> > > complement it with activities and conversations that he, and
> > Mallorn's CEO,
> > > say have no place on Duncan's list.
>
> > I agree that a second list is probably a Good Thing in this situation.
>
> Boy, I guess I am losing it. Do you, or do you not, have a disk space/money
> issue with auctions?? If you do, two lists are needed, if not, the new list
> can go away IF Duncan also agrees to auctions.
>
> (You know, I don't like how this is coming out. Duncan says be quiet about
> auctions or be removed. I say you and Duncan need to allow auctions or there
> needs to be two lists. Both sound pushy....help.....)
>
> > only hope that the two lists don't start crossing over into similar topic
> > areas, confusing those interested in finding pumpkin-growing information
> > on the Internet and inadvertently hurting the sport. I find the
> > duplicate name especially prone to confusion, but I suppose that what's
> > done is done.
>
> I set the new list up on a monthly pay basis. It can go away just as fast as
> it was created.
> I already have three web pages and another mail list I support. I don't need
> a new list to run IF we can find (PLEAAAASE) middle ground.
>
> > Chris
>
> Mike
>
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