Re: List owners comments
- To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
- Subject: Re: List owners comments
- From: S* T*
- Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 09:01:05 PDT
Thank You Rocky for stating that.Pumpkinpiper
>From: Lyle Rockwell <rocky.r@cyber-quest.com>
>Reply-To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>Subject: Re: List owners comments
>Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 08:22:09 -0400
>
>Please take this issue to a chat room, to a phone nearest you, or some
where
>else where administrative related things can be run, not in an open
forum. The
>ill effects this conversation has on the general public can become very
harmful
>to the always friendly atmosphere this list provides. I for one hope
there is a
>second list, but please dont ruin this list. I have been clinging on
every word
>in here for nearly 2 years, and enjoy the banter and have learned a
bunch of
>info, but airing this out in an open forum cannot be good for growers
who come
>here for the growing tips. I suggest using either private email, phone,
chat
>room through ICQ, POWOW, or some other chat service(maybe on needs to
be set up
>for auctions, administative purposes, or 1400 pound pumpkins. I for
one, look
>forward to 35 emails eachnite, as I invite those into my home each
nite, I laugh
>I learn.
>
>Rocky Rockwell
>ICQ 1815098
>Get ICQ @ http://www.miribilis.com
>
>Mike Stephenson wrote:
>
>> > 3) Rather than stewing over an issue for several days and then
suddenly
>> > taking action without trying to work out problems, members in
>> > disagreement can send the listowner or the company that runs the
>> > list a message saying "But we'd really like this..."
>>
>> I did send such a message to the listowner, it didn't work. Then You
said no
>> auctions. I took that as the end of the conversation. No "stewing"
involved.
>> Having twice been told no auctions I got the message, no auctions.
:-) With
>> conversations over, action taken, new list formed. Very simple.
>>
>> > However, I can say that if someone had come to me asking for
another
>> > list at Mallorn specifically for seed exchanges or bidding, I
probably
>> > would have set one up. Fact is, I received a half dozen emails
supporting
>> > my comments and not a single one refuting it, so I had no way of
knowing
>> > that anyone felt as you do.
>>
>> Now I am confused??? If Duncan's list can't have auctions because of
"the
>> ISP" disk space issue
>> how does a new list change anything. I thought the reason was also a
money
>> issue, but
>> maybe it has more to do with auctions, and the question of who is
interested
>> in auctions, and who is not. Since auctions about pumpkin seeds are
>> certainly on the topic of pumpkins then those who don't want to know
about
>> the auction, or mushroom compost, or so-in-so's seed list can just
hit the
>> delete button.
>>
>> > Regarding money, Duncan was probably wrong in mentioning that as an
issue
>> > too. He may not have understood Mallorn's reasons for supporting
>> > the list,
>> > which is part of the reason that I sent out my response. But he is
>> > ultimately the listowner, and for that reason alone what he says
goes
>> > regarding content.
>>
>> Sorry, confused again. Are you saying, as far as you are concerned,
>> auctions, and the disk space they may consume, are OK with you???
Thus, if
>> auctions OK with Duncan, then we only need one list? (I am good,
very good,
>> with only one list.)
>>
>> > > A second list can't hurt pumpkin
>> > > growing. It certainly isn't meant as a way to hurt Duncan's list,
rather
>> > > complement it with activities and conversations that he, and
>> > Mallorn's CEO,
>> > > say have no place on Duncan's list.
>>
>> > I agree that a second list is probably a Good Thing in this
situation.
>>
>> Boy, I guess I am losing it. Do you, or do you not, have a disk
space/money
>> issue with auctions?? If you do, two lists are needed, if not, the
new list
>> can go away IF Duncan also agrees to auctions.
>>
>> (You know, I don't like how this is coming out. Duncan says be quiet
about
>> auctions or be removed. I say you and Duncan need to allow auctions
or there
>> needs to be two lists. Both sound pushy....help.....)
>>
>> > only hope that the two lists don't start crossing over into similar
topic
>> > areas, confusing those interested in finding pumpkin-growing
information
>> > on the Internet and inadvertently hurting the sport. I find the
>> > duplicate name especially prone to confusion, but I suppose that
what's
>> > done is done.
>>
>> I set the new list up on a monthly pay basis. It can go away just as
fast as
>> it was created.
>> I already have three web pages and another mail list I support. I
don't need
>> a new list to run IF we can find (PLEAAAASE) middle ground.
>>
>> > Chris
>>
>> Mike
>>
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