RE: family/work vs. pumpkin

Interesting....AGGC hasn't posted a fruit for Kevin since 2005 so maybe he's
stopped growing? He hasn't posted this list in a while that I've noticed.

Either way, we can agree that auxins & gibberellins are vital hormones but I
suspect most growers get enough hormones from the various kelp extracts they
spray.

Stephen Jepsen
GPC Executive Committee
 
Grow 'Em BIG 
 


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Scott G. Manke
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:49 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: RE: family/work vs. pumpkin

Found it....

http://www.hort.net/lists/pumpkins/jun03/msg00141.html

>  Thomas
> Now this brings me back to Horticulture Science class and I will make
it
>simple BUT you will have to follow me !!! When a plant is growing there
is a
>Chemical Called AUXIN that builds up in the plant and focusses itself
in the
>growing points OR Maristims. which are the root tips and vine tips. it
makes the
>vines grow in singular columns. Pumpkin plants have a good amount of
Auxin
>keeping the main vine longer then the secondaries. as Pumpkins and Male
flowers
>form there is a Chemical change in the plant. it is like a Teeter
totter. Once
>the flowers form a chemical called Gibberelic acid forms and the
pendulum swings
>from Auxin to Gibberelic Acid that is the point that the plant goes
into
>MOTHER MODE. the MORE flowers the MORE Gibberelic acid. People have
said that they
>saw a slowdown in plant growth when the pumpkins really started putting
on
>weight well this is in large part that the pumpkins Chemistry is
blocking the
>growth of the plant and not that the plant is not getting enough JUICE
!!
>   One way to prove this is with Cuttings of plants that you are trying
to
>root. Auxin is the controlling factor for root development so a cutting
with
>flowers WILL NOT ROOT but pull off the flowers and it works great !!!
>   YES I have experimented with pulling off the flowers Male and Female
and
>YES it makes a GIANT difference !! As it goes for your Question let any
and all
>pumpkins and flowers set and Cull any you don't want when they get in
the way
>!!!
>   OK Sorry list I know this is a Pumpkin List but we don't usually
talk
>about stuff like this but I thought it would shed light on some things
!!! Take
>care all and have a great Season !!
>
>   Kevin Smith
>  Pumpkin Pirate !!!!
>
>So Kevin,
>
>If the Gibberelic Acid is a product of the plant "mothering", are you
saying
>we should leave the flowers on?  If we allow the plant to produce more
>flowers, will it speed up the pumpkin growth?  Of course, taking this
the
>other way, if we cut off all the growth tips, will the plant cease (or
>significantly reduce) it's production of Auxin and switch to this
Gibberelic
>acid?  This seems to be what most of us do shortly after the pumpkin is
set.
>
>I think this is a very good topic for the list!  If not, I would be
happy to
>have the conversation with you privately.
>
>-Gus
>
>  Gus
> yes if you leave the flowers on it will keep the Gibberelic acid
DOMINANT !!
>in the plant !! if you remove the Maristims -- (Growing point of a
plant)
>Auxin will find another way out like in Turtuaries or in the case of
trees
>Suckers and Water sprouts !! you can only stop Auxin by producing
Gibberelic or by
>killing the plant !!! But with Gibberelic acid you can only end it by
just
>snipping the flowers off it works that fast so don't set a pumpkin then
remove all
>the rest of the flowers trying to get more root growth you just may
have
>problems !!
>   Yes, I agree this is a good subject for the list and hopefully we
can keep
>it going !!!
>
>   Kevin Smith
>  Pumpkin Pirate !!!


Hope that doesn't add too much to the confusion.

Scott


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of Scott G. Manke
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:52 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: RE: family/work vs. pumpkin

Really?  I read on here someone stating that clipping any flowers was
not encouraged.  Due to the fact of one chemical being produced to make
new flowers and another chemical (one that promotes fruit growth) being
produced immediately once the flower blooms.  If you clip the flowers,
the plant then switches back to the flower producing chemical and
reduces the amount of fruit growing stuff.

I'll have to look and find the thread again.  I think it was from 2002.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of Steve Maydan
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:04 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: family/work vs. pumpkin

Debbie,
  What time is the nephew's event? If you got there late, would anyone
notice?

And yes, clip the male flowers and prune the tert vines. Just save it
until tomorrow.

Decisions, decisions.  Good luck.

Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: <yorunk@comcast.net>
To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:05 AM
Subject: family/work vs. pumpkin


> Ok gang.  At what point do you dismember a family member when they
tell
> you the day before that there is a fall sports assembly for a nephew
and
> you were planning on spraying for bugs that night?  Given my work
schedule
> and the shorter days, I am limited in my time spent in patch.  I am
> watering at 5 a.m. today (while it is still dark) and was hoping to
spray
> Sevin tonight.  By the time I get home after said sports event, it
will
> again be too dark to spray.  That will push me back to Friday night
(since
> I work tomorrow night).  At least I can fert. tomorrow morning.
>
> Should I be picking all male flowers?  I have had to cut away some
yellow
> leaves by the stumps.  Is that a good idea?  Guess based on the posts
I
> need to be pruning the tertiary vines.
>
> Debbie
>
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