Day 32 since germination and I just broke the 200 ovt barrier (202 - YES!) 86 circumference 59 parallel 57 perpendicular I am growing a "from the seed rack" AG seed packaged by Ed Hume Seeds (A Northwest local) because I had earlier displayed my great gardening skills by cooking my Dill seeds by setting them on a heating pad that I allowed to get too hot. (I hate it when its my fault <g>.) Mike in Oregon