Re: Roots vs Leaves, post season plant analysis
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- Subject: Re: Roots vs Leaves, post season plant analysis
- From: R* J* N*
- Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 07:51:56 -0600
Down To the Root-of-the-Matter:
The one thing I'd contribute to this discussion is that I've observed the
rooting depth of these AG's to be dependant on the soil structure. When I
grow AG's on old farm land that has a firm fragipan only 8" down, the roots
stop there. When I grow AG's on loose deep sandy loam the roots will run
down 18" or more.
I think every plant and every situation is unique, and it would impossible
to make a generalization about what is the best way. I do have one
general opinion to share that is somewhat an off-base idea. I feel that
our plants ability to produce photosynthates, as well our plants ability to
nourish and supply water to a fruit is far exceeding the plants size limit
of the fruit. Does that make any sense to you? I have two reasons:
First of all in many cases our plants support 1500-2000 pounds or more of
fruit, but they have never yet come close to the 2000 pound fruit. Also
the fact that we are splitting a high percentage of the fruit we grow tells
me that our "limiting" factor is the genetic ability of the plant to allow
a larger single fruit. For this reason I conclude that the plants we are
growing have the ability to nourish 2000 pound fruits or more, if the other
limiting factors can be overcome.
Just a little food for thought,
Rick
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> From: carlson@sanasys.com
> To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> Subject: Re: Roots vs Leaves, post season plant analysis
> Date: Saturday, December 05, 1998 9:36 PM
>
> hello
> I've used a shovel to loose the soil as I pull up gently on the vines
> tap root. The roots i check were the vines tap roots. most of these
> traveled at least 6 feet before breaking off and some were 10 feet or
> more. so these roots are aggressive. my soil is very loose and this
> probably has a lot to do with it
> the Carlsons Dan and Beth
>
>
>
> Jon L Jaussi wrote:
> >
> > I had roots strung through heavy, compacted, clay at 5 feet from the
> > plant. Never underestimate the aggressive nature of these plants.
This
> > year was my first, and I will de-compact the soil as deep and as far
out
> > as I can afford with tilling in organic matter. If the spaghetti
noodle
> > roots of an ag can get through 5 feet of compacted clay, (first year
> > grower did not know to stay off his soil) then they would have easily
> > gone further in better conditions. Next year's post season plant/root
> > analysis will bear this out(I hope). BTW, how may of you go through the
> > plot, dig roots to assess length and frequency? I moved before I could
> > do it this year but I will definitely do it next year.
> >
> > Jon in Utah
> >
> > >
> > >Years back i remember you commenting on this subject and i thought
> > >that you were
> > >wrong that a big plant was the ticket....and in some cases is.... I
> > >thought that
> > >the roots only went 8 inches..........until I did some
> > >test.s.........................and changed my mind.................and
> > >you
> > >aren't the last grower to realize this i am.............no one was
> > >blabbing
> > >their findings............and it seems to be figuring the best plant
> > >size for
> > >your area.........................and how many pumpkin you want per
> > >plant..................so this next season i will do more
> > >test...............and
> > >someday figure this out yeah
> > >right!!!..ha..ha..ha..ha,,,,,,,,,,,,brock
> > >
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