Re: Roots vs Leaves (watering)
- To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
- Subject: Re: Roots vs Leaves (watering)
- From: G* H*
- Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 21:27:20 -0600 (CST)
I had the same problem with several of my plants this year. I do not have
an overhead watering system, just five gallon buckets. My problem started
after several heavy rains which left water standing around the stump of the
plant for a short while. The drainage is fairly good, but it remained
wet around the base of the plant. The plants which were planted just a
little higher did not have this oozing and rotting problem.
George Heyne
Rochester, MN.
On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, Cindi & Pete wrote:
> I have had problems over the years with a stump rot which starts with a
> foamy watery solution oozing from the main root. It continues to ooze and
> eventually stops, and by that time the main root has rotted. I have talked
> to a few growers who have had it also. Don Black told me he thinks it is
> caused by overhead watering which splashes up some nasty fungus on the main
> root, causing the infection to start. Howard Shelley had it on one of his
> plants this year. I water overhead so I think that is probably the cause.
> >From now on when I water overhead I cover the main stump first. It seems to
> be working. I have not been able to find anything about this oozing
> condition in any books. If anybody knows anything about it I would
> appreciate their input. Pete Glasier
>
> ----------
> > From: carlson@sanasys.com
> > To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> > Subject: Re: Roots vs Leaves (watering)
> > Date: Sunday, December 06, 1998 5:51 PM
> >
> > jon
> > just reading over your letter in regards to stump rot. We (the Carlsons)
> > are fresh off a stump rot year. Like you say there was no signs of
> > anything wrong until it was to late. no holes splits or cracks. just a
> > little lagging in the plant and fruit developement. once it was cut from
> > the plant things picked up. We have very sandy soil that drains very
> > good. we have to water from a city faucett. could the chlorine or other
> > chem. have any thing to do with it. we did not over water but we think
> > overhead watering has something to do with it. we will cover the first
> > 3 to 4 feet of main with a plastic roof to help keep this dry during
> > rains or watering. I think pete Glasier told me he had these same
> > problems and this helped him. sorry the problems I had don't nec.
> > support your theory but that is my 2 cents worth!!!
> > the Carlson Dan and BethJon S Hun wrote:
> > >
> > > Several years ago Doc Pumpkinstein wrote about this subject. It was
> > > published in the WPC news letter. I seem to have missed placed the
> > > article but the just of it was the plant roots extended out beyond the
> > > trunk by some 25 to 30 feet. He used a high pressure hose to remove
> the
> > > dirt and found a massive bed of roots going in all directions form the
> > > trunk. He also found that the majority of feeder roots stayed up in
> the
> > > top 6-8 inches of soil. As I recall these were what he called the main
> > > support for the plant. He warned of the dangers of deep watering
> > > because most of us have heavy soil and the sub soil will retain
> moisture
> > > and the deep roots will rot making our plants week. This may explain
> > > some of the problems we have been having with stump rot. Possibly the
> > > roots start to rot and decay travels up the larger roots to the
> > > stump.(just a theory) I lost two plants to stump rot this year and
> never
> > > found any large roots attached to the stump. I think the rot may have
> > > started in the large vine roots and worked its way to the surface where
> > > it was too late to treat the problem. This seems to be a big problem
> for
> > > a lot of growers both new and experienced. Have any of you with well
> > > drained soil experienced root or stump rot problems?
> > >
> > > Jon Hunt
> > >
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