Re: Germinatin box
Hey Gordon. Nice leaps you made there. But just because someone makes
a logical and reasonable conclution doens't make it right. I am just trying
to make a guess. I wanted to see what others thought. I know ppl can do
what they want. You don't have to tell me that. I am just throwing the
though out there. Maybe someone has done this experiement. Maybe someone
will. Who knows. But for you to day, why fertilize or why take seeds out of
the pumpkin. Experiments have been done, reasearch has been proven. There
is no logical conclution that can be made to doing those things. Stop
falling down your slippery slope and come back to reality. Please!
--- G Tanner <g1tanner@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Pumpkins & Chess, others,
>
> I don't think there is any correlation between how a
> seed germinates and whether it will produce a flat
> vine, have stump rot, yellow or green vines, big or
> small leaves, produce pumpkins that have stem or
> blossom split, or fruit with a particular color,
> shape, or size.
>
> To me it sounds like you are trying to draw a line,
> an arbitrary line, that says- this is what I think is
> logical and reasonable according to the facts and
> goals that I have, one that I am comfortable with, why
> doesn't everyone agree with me ?
>
> Well some people might and other won't. It is a
> personal choice. Other people think differently and
> come to different logical and reasonable conclusions.
>
> One person might think... why do we even take the
> seeds out of the pumpkins ? isn't it natural to just
> leave them in there and let see what happens next
> spring ?
> why should we plant them at all ? just leave them...
> and why should we till the ground, add fertilize or
> water them ? i won't pollenate my plant- that is why
> nature provided bees. I fact i won't even go out and
> get a pumpkin and put in my yard. I mean- if nature
> want's me to have a pumpkin plant in my yard then
> somehow one will show up there. Won't nature take
> care of all that ? the strong seeds will make it, the
> ones that will produce the best and strongest plants ?
>
> another person might think..... If our goal is to
> produce big fruit, then why shouldn't we do everything
> with in our control to reach that goal ? I'm going to
> buy all the best seeds I can. I'm going to germinate
> my seeds in a special electromagnetic environmentally
> controlled area. I'll amend and fiddle with my soil
> all year round. I'll build a huge enclosed building
> to grow in, with artifical lights and heat- with a
> removeable top for natural sunshine too. I'll set up
> an automatic temperature and humidity controlled
> sprinkler and fertilizing systems. I'll try all the
> newest unproven fertilizers in huge amaounts. I'll use
> all the latest and greatest chemical to kill all the
> bug that threaten my plant. I'll put up an electric
> fence and electric ground spikes to keep out all
> unwanted animals. I'll set up a booby trapped alarm
> system to keep out human intruders. I'll trench and
> bury my vines. I'll hand pollinate each and every
> fruit. I'll build a enclosed controled shade chamber.
> I'll coat the pumpkins with a softening cream so they
> will be less prone to split. I'll do everything i can
> to make sure I have the best chance of growing the
> biggest pumpkin that I can.
>
> so who is right and who is wrong ?-
> in my opinion, they are both right, they both can do
> whatever they feel like.
>
> And what you and I and everyone else are doing is what
> we feel comfortable with. which is fine. lets go for
> it.
> where you get into trouble is thinking that others
> should agree with where you drew your line.
>
> my 2 cents worth-
> Gordon Tanner
> Maple Valley WA
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> Larry seems to be a bit scared here. But I am not
> saying throw your
> seed outside and see what happens. I am just saying
> give it good conditions
> in a peat pot inside at about 70 to 75 degrees and see
> what happens. Don't
> sand the seed, don't give it perfect temps. Perhaps
> if we were all doing
> this there would be stronger seed lines today and not
> all of these seting
> problems, flat vines, rot, wilt, and blow ups.
>
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