Adventure anwer
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- Subject: Adventure anwer
- From: J* A*
- Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:23:31 -0600
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Richard was on the right track with his
answer. 7 of those 11 biggest pumpkins shared one common factor, that is
each had Lloyd genetics either as a mother or a maternal grandparent. Keep
in mind that the male pollinizer had no genetic influence on the
respective 1000lb pumpkin, so disregard the "father's half" of the
chart. Hmmmmmm.... what's the signifigance you ask.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here, so bear with
me. And keep in mind that what I say is all theroretical and highly
opinionated. When I look at the backgrouds of many of the biggest
pumpkins, there appears to be two "classes" of seeds. They are the
"Holland" based background and the "Lloyd" based background. I know that
all AG's came from Dill's work many years ago, but over time these two names
seemed to separate genetically. The Lloyd seeds (935, 909.5, 875) do have
one "Holland occurence" five generations back from the 935, but this is almost
negligable. With that explained, consider this:
4 of the largest 8 pumpkins (including the largest)
are the result of a Lloyd x Holland cross. (1190, 1109, 1096,
1039). To me that holds importance!! 2 of these 4 that are not
are the result of a Lloyd Lloyd cross. Hmmmmm... I don't want to go as far
as saying that these 4 are experiencing hybrid vigor, but I do believe that
there is something special about these Lloyd Holland crosses. As for the
Lloyd Lloyd cross, thats a out of the scope of this post.
Look at some of the hottest seeds right now -815
Checkon, 846 Calai, 723 Bobier, 826.5 Hester, 991 Hunt. These babies are known
producers! Have you ever stopped to consider why? And what
do these all have in common? Yep you guessed it, Lloyd Holland cross.
One more point, 12 of the top 17 pumpkins have
geneologies where there are no common maternal parents back to the 3rd
generation. That may hold merit as well.
What's the moral of the story here? I
think there are many hidden secrets in our pumpkin past, and with a little
diggin, some of this stuff can come to light. Its up to us to
interpret it and put it to the test.
I ask all of you to let me know what you think of
this stuff. Am I talkin to deaf ears, is this way off the mark, or am I on to
something? Thanks--
Joe
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