Re: Overlooked seeds?
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giambra@iwon.com wrote:
>
> I grew the 862 last year - strange things happened. It kept blowing the
> main vine. By blowing I mean it kept breaking. At first I thought I must
> have been clumsy and kicked it or something, but it happened at least five
> times. I finally gave up with the main and grew two smaller ones on secondaries.
>
> connie giambra
> S.Rafael,CA
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> >Bill,
> >
> >Sounds like a good seed, would you like to swap seeds.
> >
> >andrew
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bill VanIderstine
> > To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: Overlooked seeds?
> >
> >
> > andrew : I think the 862 VanIderstine if you can keep it together, mine
> >stem split at 420 lbs
> > & the 751 VanIderstine are two sleepers. Reg Noonan grew both this year,
> >862 planted too late
> > & 751 pumpkin , I thought he should go with but he choose the 762 Smith
> >again re measurments
> > & was again beaten by two smaller pumpkins. I believe it would have been
> >a different story had
> > he faith in a heavy weighing line. May not have beat Peter but sure as
> >hell would have trimmed
> > Elayne. These two havn't had their day yet. The breeding is there, only
> >the grower is missing.
> > That's the opion from here. Bill Van
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 08:17 PM 1/23/01 , you wrote:
> > >Let's keep this topic going. Another sleeper is the 991 hunt. I had
> a
> > >pumpkin on the 991 hunt this year, I pollinated on the 25th of june
> and
> >was
> > >an estimated 700 pounds when it cracked on the first of august.Very
> fast
> > >growing plant that was the third pumpkin on the main 14 ft out. But
> had
> >a
> > >very large blossom scar and that's were it split. The walls were 14
> inches
> > >thick in the middle and thicker at the stem but only two inches right
> >in the
> > >middle of the blossom scar. My mother also grew one from the 991 hunt.
> >She
> > >pollinated on July 7th and after mine split she didn't fertilize very
> >much
> > >maybe twice in the last two months and still manage to grow a 879.8
> (tarp
> > >weight included) or 876 without. I will be planting this one this year.
> > >
> > >andrew
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Andrew Papez" <apapez@home.com>
> > >To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
> > >Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 6:57 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Overlooked seeds?
> > >
> > >
> > >> Chris
> > >>
> > >> Another overlooked seed I think that has huge potential is the 678
> > >> Ciliberto. Saw the results in D. Haegans patch and her pumpkin matured
> >in
> > >> mid August and sat there losing weight for a month and a half. Still
> > >weighed
> > >> 946 pounds.
> > >>
> > >> andrew
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Michalec, Chris" <cmicha@chmc.org>
> > >> To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
> > >> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 4:56 PM
> > >> Subject: RE: Overlooked seeds?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Hi John,
> > >> > Great topic for this time of year. There are so many seeds out
> >there
> > >> that
> > >> > look as if they have never been tried as you review them in the
> AGGC.
> > >> > (Thanks Mike, Al, and all their helpers.) There are probably of
> >number
> > >of
> > >> > seeds with great potential that haven't been given a fair shake.
> > So
> > >many
> > >> of
> > >> > us look to see what has produced for others before we make our choices.
> > >A
> > >> > number of seeds that probably would be great may only show a few
> > >mid-sized
> > >> > offspring because they haven't been planted by the heavy hitters
> >and
> > >given
> > >> > the best chance to maximize their potential, and were grown by beginners
> > >> or
> > >> > folks who are still trying to get the hang of this. Others never
> >get
> > >> > planted at all as people wait for someone else to prove that the
> > >potential
> > >> > is there. I can think of two that haven't been mentioned that probably
> > >> have
> > >> > good potential.
> > >> > The 812 LaRue 97 Produced the 758.5 and 815.5 Baird a couple years
> > >ago,
> > >> > and either hasn't been planted since or it's offspring haven't made
> >it
> > >> into
> > >> > the database or to a weighoff. The other is the 871 Richart 97
> that
> > >Jake
> > >> > VanKooten in B.C.has done so well with, growing a 764 in 98 and
> a
> >942
> > >with
> > >> > it last year. Those are the only two offspring from that pumpkin
> >that
> > >are
> > >> > noted in the database. Seeing Jake's 942 last year made a believer
> >out
> > >of
> > >> > me and I will be planting the one 871 seed I have this spring.
> > >> > I think a lot of potential exists in many of these untried and
> >under
> > >> > utilized seed lines. I just wish I had the time and space to give
> >more
> > >of
> > >> > them a chance. You don't need to spend a lot of money chasing this
> > >years
> > >> > darlings to grow your best yet. Most of us have probably already
> > >acquired
> > >> > the seeds we need to do that. You just have to give them a chance,
> >it
> > >may
> > >> > even come from one from your own patch.
> > >> >
> > >> > Chris Michalec
> > >> > Covington, WA
> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > From: John Failor [SMTP:buckeye5@bright.net]
> > >> > > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 12:44 AM
> > >> > > To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> > >> > > Subject: Overlooked seeds?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Hello to all,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Recently I was browsing through the AGCC database and I was
> >struck
> > >> by
> > >> > > just how many seeds are there and I wonder how many of them have
> > >really
> > >> > > gotten a fair shake. With all those seeds there is way to give
> >them
> > >all
> > >> a
> > >> > > real shot and it is a better bet to plant proven seeds. After
> > >all,seeds
> > >> > > are a crape shot as it is but still I have to wonder if there
> isn't
> >a
> > >> > > juggernaut hiding in there somewhere just waiting to be discovered
> >and
> > >> > > take off. After all the top seeds are hard to come by and maybe
> >we
> > >> will
> > >> > > find the next top seed.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I would like to get the group's feedback on this subject and
> >maybe
> > >> > > some seeds they think are undiscovered monsters.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Here are some that I think might be:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Brock 685
> > >> > > Wray 738
> > >> > > Welty 809
> > >> > > Sproule 952
> > >> > > McCallum 566
> > >> > > and first generation 825 Shymanski offspring. (The 801 Stelts
> can't
> >be
> > >> the
> > >> > > only one with such stellar genetics).
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Then again I could be wrong but look at the example of the
> >903
> > >> > > Holland. It was grown in 97 and after its first year no one grew
> >a
> > >huge
> > >> > > pumpkin with it and people lost interest but this year out of
> > no
> > >where
> > >> > > Joel Holland grew a 808, 967 and 1026 with it. I bet it will get
> >more
> > >> > > attention this year!
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Any thoughts?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > John
> > >> > >
> > >> >
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> > Thanks,
> > Bill Van Iderstine
> > P.E.I. Record Holder @ 862 lbs.
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