Re: Overlooked seeds?
one more thing - it broke like celery - not all the way through, so that
I was able to keep it together with dirt each time and it would keep growing.
I hope that make sense.
connie
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>wind?
>
>giambra@iwon.com wrote:
>>
>> I grew the 862 last year - strange things happened. It kept blowing
the
>> main vine. By blowing I mean it kept breaking. At first I thought I
>must
>> have been clumsy and kicked it or something, but it happened at least
>five
>> times. I finally gave up with the main and grew two smaller ones on
secondaries.
>>
>> connie giambra
>> S.Rafael,CA
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>>
>> >Bill,
>> >
>> >Sounds like a good seed, would you like to swap seeds.
>> >
>> >andrew
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Bill VanIderstine
>> > To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:25 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Overlooked seeds?
>> >
>> >
>> > andrew : I think the 862 VanIderstine if you can keep it together,
>mine
>> >stem split at 420 lbs
>> > & the 751 VanIderstine are two sleepers. Reg Noonan grew both this
>year,
>> >862 planted too late
>> > & 751 pumpkin , I thought he should go with but he choose the 762
Smith
>> >again re measurments
>> > & was again beaten by two smaller pumpkins. I believe it would have
>been
>> >a different story had
>> > he faith in a heavy weighing line. May not have beat Peter but sure
>as
>> >hell would have trimmed
>> > Elayne. These two havn't had their day yet. The breeding is there,
>only
>> >the grower is missing.
>> > That's the opion from here. Bill Van
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > At 08:17 PM 1/23/01 , you wrote:
>> > >Let's keep this topic going. Another sleeper is the 991 hunt. I had
>> a
>> > >pumpkin on the 991 hunt this year, I pollinated on the 25th of june
>> and
>> >was
>> > >an estimated 700 pounds when it cracked on the first of august.Very
>> fast
>> > >growing plant that was the third pumpkin on the main 14 ft out. But
>> had
>> >a
>> > >very large blossom scar and that's were it split. The walls were
14
>> inches
>> > >thick in the middle and thicker at the stem but only two inches right
>> >in the
>> > >middle of the blossom scar. My mother also grew one from the 991
hunt.
>> >She
>> > >pollinated on July 7th and after mine split she didn't fertilize
very
>> >much
>> > >maybe twice in the last two months and still manage to grow a 879.8
>> (tarp
>> > >weight included) or 876 without. I will be planting this one this
>year.
>> > >
>> > >andrew
>> > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >From: "Andrew Papez" <apapez@home.com>
>> > >To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
>> > >Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 6:57 PM
>> > >Subject: Re: Overlooked seeds?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> Chris
>> > >>
>> > >> Another overlooked seed I think that has huge potential is the
678
>> > >> Ciliberto. Saw the results in D. Haegans patch and her pumpkin
matured
>> >in
>> > >> mid August and sat there losing weight for a month and a half.
Still
>> > >weighed
>> > >> 946 pounds.
>> > >>
>> > >> andrew
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "Michalec, Chris" <cmicha@chmc.org>
>> > >> To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
>> > >> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 4:56 PM
>> > >> Subject: RE: Overlooked seeds?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> > Hi John,
>> > >> > Great topic for this time of year. There are so many seeds
>out
>> >there
>> > >> that
>> > >> > look as if they have never been tried as you review them in the
>> AGGC.
>> > >> > (Thanks Mike, Al, and all their helpers.) There are probably
>of
>> >number
>> > >of
>> > >> > seeds with great potential that haven't been given a fair shake.
>> > So
>> > >many
>> > >> of
>> > >> > us look to see what has produced for others before we make our
>choices.
>> > >A
>> > >> > number of seeds that probably would be great may only show a
few
>> > >mid-sized
>> > >> > offspring because they haven't been planted by the heavy hitters
>> >and
>> > >given
>> > >> > the best chance to maximize their potential, and were grown by
>beginners
>> > >> or
>> > >> > folks who are still trying to get the hang of this. Others never
>> >get
>> > >> > planted at all as people wait for someone else to prove that
the
>> > >potential
>> > >> > is there. I can think of two that haven't been mentioned that
>probably
>> > >> have
>> > >> > good potential.
>> > >> > The 812 LaRue 97 Produced the 758.5 and 815.5 Baird a couple
>years
>> > >ago,
>> > >> > and either hasn't been planted since or it's offspring haven't
>made
>> >it
>> > >> into
>> > >> > the database or to a weighoff. The other is the 871 Richart
97
>> that
>> > >Jake
>> > >> > VanKooten in B.C.has done so well with, growing a 764 in 98 and
>> a
>> >942
>> > >with
>> > >> > it last year. Those are the only two offspring from that pumpkin
>> >that
>> > >are
>> > >> > noted in the database. Seeing Jake's 942 last year made a believer
>> >out
>> > >of
>> > >> > me and I will be planting the one 871 seed I have this spring.
>> > >> > I think a lot of potential exists in many of these untried
and
>> >under
>> > >> > utilized seed lines. I just wish I had the time and space to
>give
>> >more
>> > >of
>> > >> > them a chance. You don't need to spend a lot of money chasing
>this
>> > >years
>> > >> > darlings to grow your best yet. Most of us have probably already
>> > >acquired
>> > >> > the seeds we need to do that. You just have to give them a chance,
>> >it
>> > >may
>> > >> > even come from one from your own patch.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Chris Michalec
>> > >> > Covington, WA
>> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> > > From: John Failor [SMTP:buckeye5@bright.net]
>> > >> > > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 12:44 AM
>> > >> > > To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>> > >> > > Subject: Overlooked seeds?
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Hello to all,
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Recently I was browsing through the AGCC database and I
>was
>> >struck
>> > >> by
>> > >> > > just how many seeds are there and I wonder how many of them
>have
>> > >really
>> > >> > > gotten a fair shake. With all those seeds there is way to give
>> >them
>> > >all
>> > >> a
>> > >> > > real shot and it is a better bet to plant proven seeds. After
>> > >all,seeds
>> > >> > > are a crape shot as it is but still I have to wonder if there
>> isn't
>> >a
>> > >> > > juggernaut hiding in there somewhere just waiting to be discovered
>> >and
>> > >> > > take off. After all the top seeds are hard to come by and
>maybe
>> >we
>> > >> will
>> > >> > > find the next top seed.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > I would like to get the group's feedback on this subject
>and
>> >maybe
>> > >> > > some seeds they think are undiscovered monsters.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Here are some that I think might be:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Brock 685
>> > >> > > Wray 738
>> > >> > > Welty 809
>> > >> > > Sproule 952
>> > >> > > McCallum 566
>> > >> > > and first generation 825 Shymanski offspring. (The 801 Stelts
>> can't
>> >be
>> > >> the
>> > >> > > only one with such stellar genetics).
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Then again I could be wrong but look at the example of
the
>> >903
>> > >> > > Holland. It was grown in 97 and after its first year no one
>grew
>> >a
>> > >huge
>> > >> > > pumpkin with it and people lost interest but this year out
>of
>> > no
>> > >where
>> > >> > > Joel Holland grew a 808, 967 and 1026 with it. I bet it will
>get
>> >more
>> > >> > > attention this year!
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Any thoughts?
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > John
>> > >> > >
>> > >> >
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>> > Thanks,
>> > Bill Van Iderstine
>> > P.E.I. Record Holder @ 862 lbs.
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