Re: Overlooked seeds?
I grew the 862 last year - strange things happened. It kept blowing the
main vine. By blowing I mean it kept breaking. At first I thought I must
have been clumsy and kicked it or something, but it happened at least five
times. I finally gave up with the main and grew two smaller ones on secondaries.
connie giambra
S.Rafael,CA
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>Bill,
>
>Sounds like a good seed, would you like to swap seeds.
>
>andrew
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill VanIderstine
> To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Overlooked seeds?
>
>
> andrew : I think the 862 VanIderstine if you can keep it together, mine
>stem split at 420 lbs
> & the 751 VanIderstine are two sleepers. Reg Noonan grew both this year,
>862 planted too late
> & 751 pumpkin , I thought he should go with but he choose the 762 Smith
>again re measurments
> & was again beaten by two smaller pumpkins. I believe it would have been
>a different story had
> he faith in a heavy weighing line. May not have beat Peter but sure as
>hell would have trimmed
> Elayne. These two havn't had their day yet. The breeding is there, only
>the grower is missing.
> That's the opion from here. Bill Van
>
>
>
>
> At 08:17 PM 1/23/01 , you wrote:
> >Let's keep this topic going. Another sleeper is the 991 hunt. I had
a
> >pumpkin on the 991 hunt this year, I pollinated on the 25th of june
and
>was
> >an estimated 700 pounds when it cracked on the first of august.Very
fast
> >growing plant that was the third pumpkin on the main 14 ft out. But
had
>a
> >very large blossom scar and that's were it split. The walls were 14
inches
> >thick in the middle and thicker at the stem but only two inches right
>in the
> >middle of the blossom scar. My mother also grew one from the 991 hunt.
>She
> >pollinated on July 7th and after mine split she didn't fertilize very
>much
> >maybe twice in the last two months and still manage to grow a 879.8
(tarp
> >weight included) or 876 without. I will be planting this one this year.
> >
> >andrew
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Andrew Papez" <apapez@home.com>
> >To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
> >Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 6:57 PM
> >Subject: Re: Overlooked seeds?
> >
> >
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> Another overlooked seed I think that has huge potential is the 678
> >> Ciliberto. Saw the results in D. Haegans patch and her pumpkin matured
>in
> >> mid August and sat there losing weight for a month and a half. Still
> >weighed
> >> 946 pounds.
> >>
> >> andrew
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Michalec, Chris" <cmicha@chmc.org>
> >> To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 4:56 PM
> >> Subject: RE: Overlooked seeds?
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi John,
> >> > Great topic for this time of year. There are so many seeds out
>there
> >> that
> >> > look as if they have never been tried as you review them in the
AGGC.
> >> > (Thanks Mike, Al, and all their helpers.) There are probably of
>number
> >of
> >> > seeds with great potential that haven't been given a fair shake.
> So
> >many
> >> of
> >> > us look to see what has produced for others before we make our choices.
> >A
> >> > number of seeds that probably would be great may only show a few
> >mid-sized
> >> > offspring because they haven't been planted by the heavy hitters
>and
> >given
> >> > the best chance to maximize their potential, and were grown by beginners
> >> or
> >> > folks who are still trying to get the hang of this. Others never
>get
> >> > planted at all as people wait for someone else to prove that the
> >potential
> >> > is there. I can think of two that haven't been mentioned that probably
> >> have
> >> > good potential.
> >> > The 812 LaRue 97 Produced the 758.5 and 815.5 Baird a couple years
> >ago,
> >> > and either hasn't been planted since or it's offspring haven't made
>it
> >> into
> >> > the database or to a weighoff. The other is the 871 Richart 97
that
> >Jake
> >> > VanKooten in B.C.has done so well with, growing a 764 in 98 and
a
>942
> >with
> >> > it last year. Those are the only two offspring from that pumpkin
>that
> >are
> >> > noted in the database. Seeing Jake's 942 last year made a believer
>out
> >of
> >> > me and I will be planting the one 871 seed I have this spring.
> >> > I think a lot of potential exists in many of these untried and
>under
> >> > utilized seed lines. I just wish I had the time and space to give
>more
> >of
> >> > them a chance. You don't need to spend a lot of money chasing this
> >years
> >> > darlings to grow your best yet. Most of us have probably already
> >acquired
> >> > the seeds we need to do that. You just have to give them a chance,
>it
> >may
> >> > even come from one from your own patch.
> >> >
> >> > Chris Michalec
> >> > Covington, WA
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: John Failor [SMTP:buckeye5@bright.net]
> >> > > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 12:44 AM
> >> > > To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> >> > > Subject: Overlooked seeds?
> >> > >
> >> > > Hello to all,
> >> > >
> >> > > Recently I was browsing through the AGCC database and I was
>struck
> >> by
> >> > > just how many seeds are there and I wonder how many of them have
> >really
> >> > > gotten a fair shake. With all those seeds there is way to give
>them
> >all
> >> a
> >> > > real shot and it is a better bet to plant proven seeds. After
> >all,seeds
> >> > > are a crape shot as it is but still I have to wonder if there
isn't
>a
> >> > > juggernaut hiding in there somewhere just waiting to be discovered
>and
> >> > > take off. After all the top seeds are hard to come by and maybe
>we
> >> will
> >> > > find the next top seed.
> >> > >
> >> > > I would like to get the group's feedback on this subject and
>maybe
> >> > > some seeds they think are undiscovered monsters.
> >> > >
> >> > > Here are some that I think might be:
> >> > >
> >> > > Brock 685
> >> > > Wray 738
> >> > > Welty 809
> >> > > Sproule 952
> >> > > McCallum 566
> >> > > and first generation 825 Shymanski offspring. (The 801 Stelts
can't
>be
> >> the
> >> > > only one with such stellar genetics).
> >> > >
> >> > > Then again I could be wrong but look at the example of the
>903
> >> > > Holland. It was grown in 97 and after its first year no one grew
>a
> >huge
> >> > > pumpkin with it and people lost interest but this year out of
> no
> >where
> >> > > Joel Holland grew a 808, 967 and 1026 with it. I bet it will get
>more
> >> > > attention this year!
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Any thoughts?
> >> > >
> >> > > John
> >> > >
> >> >
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> Thanks,
> Bill Van Iderstine
> P.E.I. Record Holder @ 862 lbs.
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