Re: Overlooked seeds?

Interesting: Connie, have not heard that before, you should have let me know, I believe that was part of the
agreement we made when I sent you seed, report back in fall, good or bad. I am sure I didn't charge for seed
as the only request I have ever made was a report on how you did if you grew it. May I ask ? were these blowouts
across the vine or length wise. It must have been really motoring, mine blew at 420 lbs with stem split, I thought I
had a good one untill it blew the stem, then I blamed myself with fertilizier. O well that's pumpkins.

At 04:27 PM 1/24/01 , you wrote:
>I grew the 862 last year - strange things happened.  It kept blowing the
>main vine.  By blowing I mean it kept breaking.  At first I thought I must
>have been clumsy and  kicked it or something, but it happened at least five
>times.  I finally gave up with the main and grew two smaller ones on secondaries.
>
>connie giambra
>S.Rafael,CA
>
>-- Original Message --
>
>>Bill,
>>
>>Sounds like a good seed, would you like to swap seeds.
>>
>>andrew
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: Bill VanIderstine
>>  To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>>  Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:25 PM
>>  Subject: Re: Overlooked seeds?
>>
>>
>>  andrew : I think the 862 VanIderstine if you can keep it together, mine
>>stem split at 420 lbs
>>  & the 751 VanIderstine are two sleepers. Reg Noonan grew both this year,
>>862 planted too late
>>  & 751 pumpkin , I thought he should go with but he choose the 762 Smith
>>again re measurments
>>  & was again beaten by two smaller pumpkins. I believe it would have been
>>a different story had
>>  he faith in a heavy weighing line. May not have beat Peter but sure as
>>hell would have trimmed
>>  Elayne. These two havn't had their day yet. The breeding is there, only
>>the grower is missing.
>>      That's the opion from here.          Bill Van
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  At 08:17 PM 1/23/01 , you wrote:
>>  >Let's keep this topic going. Another sleeper is the 991 hunt. I had
>a
>>  >pumpkin on the 991 hunt this year, I pollinated on the 25th of june
>and
>>was
>>  >an estimated 700 pounds when it cracked on the first of august.Very
>fast
>>  >growing plant that was the third pumpkin on the main 14 ft out. But
>had
>>a
>>  >very large blossom scar and that's were it split. The walls were 14
>inches
>>  >thick in the middle and thicker at the stem but only two inches right
>>in the
>>  >middle of the blossom scar. My mother also grew one from the 991 hunt.
>>She
>>  >pollinated on July 7th and after mine split she didn't fertilize very
>>much
>>  >maybe twice in the last two months and still manage to grow a 879.8
>(tarp
>>  >weight included) or 876 without. I will be planting this one this year.
>>  >
>>  >andrew
>>  >----- Original Message -----
>>  >From: "Andrew Papez" <apapez@home.com>
>>  >To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
>>  >Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 6:57 PM
>>  >Subject: Re: Overlooked seeds?
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >> Chris
>>  >>
>>  >> Another overlooked seed I think that has huge potential is the 678
>>  >> Ciliberto. Saw the results in D. Haegans patch and her pumpkin matured
>>in
>>  >> mid August and sat there losing weight for a month and a half. Still
>>  >weighed
>>  >> 946 pounds.
>>  >>
>>  >> andrew
>>  >> ----- Original Message -----
>>  >> From: "Michalec, Chris" <cmicha@chmc.org>
>>  >> To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
>>  >> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 4:56 PM
>>  >> Subject: RE: Overlooked seeds?
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >> > Hi John,
>>  >> >   Great topic for this time of year.  There are so many seeds out
>>there
>>  >> that
>>  >> > look as if they have never been tried as you review them in the
>AGGC.
>>  >> > (Thanks Mike, Al, and all their helpers.)  There are probably of
>>number
>>  >of
>>  >> > seeds with great potential that haven't been given a fair shake.
>> So
>>  >many
>>  >> of
>>  >> > us look to see what has produced for others before we make our choices.
>>  >A
>>  >> > number of seeds that probably would be great may only show a few
>>  >mid-sized
>>  >> > offspring because they haven't been planted by the heavy hitters
>>and
>>  >given
>>  >> > the best chance to maximize their potential, and were grown by beginners
>>  >> or
>>  >> > folks who are still trying to get the hang of this.  Others never
>>get
>>  >> > planted at all as people wait for someone else to prove that the
>>  >potential
>>  >> > is there.  I can think of two that haven't been mentioned that probably
>>  >> have
>>  >> > good potential.
>>  >> >   The 812 LaRue 97 Produced the 758.5 and 815.5 Baird a couple years
>>  >ago,
>>  >> > and either hasn't been planted since or it's offspring haven't made
>>it
>>  >> into
>>  >> > the database or to a weighoff.  The other is the 871 Richart 97
>that
>>  >Jake
>>  >> > VanKooten in B.C.has done so well with, growing a 764 in 98 and
>a
>>942
>>  >with
>>  >> > it last year.  Those are the only two offspring from that pumpkin
>>that
>>  >are
>>  >> > noted in the database.  Seeing Jake's 942 last year made a believer
>>out
>>  >of
>>  >> > me and I will be planting the one 871 seed I have this spring.
>>  >> >   I think a lot of potential exists in many of these untried and
>>under
>>  >> > utilized seed lines.  I just wish I had the time and space to give
>>more
>>  >of
>>  >> > them a chance.  You don't need to spend a lot of money chasing this
>>  >years
>>  >> > darlings to grow your best yet.  Most of us have probably already
>>  >acquired
>>  >> > the seeds we need to do that.  You just have to give them a chance,
>>it
>>  >may
>>  >> > even come from one from your own patch.
>>  >> >
>>  >> > Chris Michalec
>>  >> > Covington, WA
>>  >> > > -----Original Message-----
>>  >> > > From: John Failor [SMTP:buckeye5@bright.net]
>>  >> > > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 12:44 AM
>>  >> > > To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>>  >> > > Subject: Overlooked seeds?
>>  >> > >
>>  >> > > Hello to all,
>>  >> > >
>>  >> > >     Recently I was browsing through the AGCC database and I was
>>struck
>>  >> by
>>  >> > > just how many seeds are there and I wonder how many of them have
>>  >really
>>  >> > > gotten a fair shake. With all those seeds there is way to give
>>them
>>  >all
>>  >> a
>>  >> > > real shot and it is a better bet to plant proven seeds. After
>>  >all,seeds
>>  >> > > are a crape shot as it is but still I have to wonder if there
>isn't
>>a
>>  >> > > juggernaut hiding in there somewhere just waiting to be discovered
>>and
>>  >> > > take off.   After all the top seeds are hard to come by  and maybe
>>we
>>  >> will
>>  >> > > find the next top seed.
>>  >> > >
>>  >> > >     I would like to get the group's feedback on this subject and
>>maybe
>>  >> > > some seeds they think are undiscovered monsters.
>>  >> > >
>>  >> > > Here are some that I think might be:
>>  >> > >
>>  >> > > Brock 685
>>  >> > > Wray 738
>>  >> > > Welty 809
>>  >> > > Sproule 952
>>  >> > > McCallum 566
>>  >> > > and first generation 825 Shymanski offspring. (The 801 Stelts
>can't
>>be
>>  >> the
>>  >> > > only one with such stellar genetics).
>>  >> > >
>>  >> > >     Then again I could be wrong but look at the example of the
>>903
>>  >> > > Holland. It was grown in 97 and after its first year no one grew
>>a
>>  >huge
>>  >> > > pumpkin with it  and people lost interest but this year out of
>> no
>>  >where
>>  >> > > Joel Holland grew a 808, 967 and 1026 with it. I bet it will get
>>more
>>  >> > > attention this year!
>>  >> > >
>>  >> > >
>>  >> > > Any thoughts?
>>  >> > >
>>  >> > > John
>>  >> > >
>>  >> >
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>>  Thanks,
>>  Bill Van Iderstine
>>  P.E.I. Record Holder @ 862 lbs.
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Thanks,
Bill Van Iderstine
P.E.I. Record Holder @ 862 lbs.
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