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From:
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To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 8:25
PM
Subject: Re: Overlooked seeds?
andrew : I think the 862 VanIderstine if you can keep it together, mine
stem split at 420 lbs
& the 751 VanIderstine are two sleepers. Reg Noonan grew both this
year, 862 planted too late
& 751 pumpkin , I thought he should go with but he choose the 762
Smith again re measurments
& was again beaten by two smaller pumpkins. I believe it would have
been a different story had
he faith in a heavy weighing line. May not have beat Peter but sure as
hell would have trimmed
Elayne. These two havn't had their day yet. The breeding is there, only
the grower is missing.
That's the opion from
here. Bill Van
At 08:17 PM 1/23/01 , you wrote:
>Let's keep this topic going. Another sleeper is the 991 hunt. I had
a
>pumpkin on the 991 hunt this year, I pollinated on the 25th of june
and was
>an estimated 700 pounds when it cracked on the first of august.Very
fast
>growing plant that was the third pumpkin on the main 14 ft out. But
had a
>very large blossom scar and that's were it split. The walls were 14
inches
>thick in the middle and thicker at the stem but only two inches right
in the
>middle of the blossom scar. My mother also grew one from the 991
hunt. She
>pollinated on July 7th and after mine split she didn't fertilize very
much
>maybe twice in the last two months and still manage to grow a 879.8
(tarp
>weight included) or 876 without. I will be planting this one this
year.
>
>andrew
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Andrew Papez" <apapez@home.com>
>To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
>Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 6:57 PM
>Subject: Re: Overlooked seeds?
>
>
>> Chris
>>
>> Another overlooked seed I think that has huge potential is the
678
>> Ciliberto. Saw the results in D. Haegans patch and her pumpkin
matured in
>> mid August and sat there losing weight for a month and a half.
Still
>weighed
>> 946 pounds.
>>
>> andrew
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michalec, Chris" <cmicha@chmc.org>
>> To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
>> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 4:56 PM
>> Subject: RE: Overlooked seeds?
>>
>>
>> > Hi John,
>> > Great topic for this time of year. There
are so many seeds out there
>> that
>> > look as if they have never been tried as you review them in
the AGGC.
>> > (Thanks Mike, Al, and all their helpers.) There are
probably of number
>of
>> > seeds with great potential that haven't been given a fair
shake. So
>many
>> of
>> > us look to see what has produced for others before we make
our choices.
>A
>> > number of seeds that probably would be great may only show
a few
>mid-sized
>> > offspring because they haven't been planted by the heavy
hitters and
>given
>> > the best chance to maximize their potential, and were grown
by beginners
>> or
>> > folks who are still trying to get the hang of this.
Others never get
>> > planted at all as people wait for someone else to prove
that the
>potential
>> > is there. I can think of two that haven't been
mentioned that probably
>> have
>> > good potential.
>> > The 812 LaRue 97 Produced the 758.5 and 815.5
Baird a couple years
>ago,
>> > and either hasn't been planted since or it's offspring
haven't made it
>> into
>> > the database or to a weighoff. The other is the 871
Richart 97 that
>Jake
>> > VanKooten in B.C.has done so well with, growing a 764 in 98
and a 942
>with
>> > it last year. Those are the only two offspring from
that pumpkin that
>are
>> > noted in the database. Seeing Jake's 942 last year
made a believer out
>of
>> > me and I will be planting the one 871 seed I have this
spring.
>> > I think a lot of potential exists in many of
these untried and under
>> > utilized seed lines. I just wish I had the time and
space to give more
>of
>> > them a chance. You don't need to spend a lot of money
chasing this
>years
>> > darlings to grow your best yet. Most of us have
probably already
>acquired
>> > the seeds we need to do that. You just have to give
them a chance, it
>may
>> > even come from one from your own patch.
>> >
>> > Chris Michalec
>> > Covington, WA
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: John Failor [SMTP:buckeye5@bright.net]
>> > > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 12:44 AM
>> > > To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>> > > Subject: Overlooked seeds?
>> > >
>> > > Hello to all,
>> > >
>> > > Recently I was browsing
through the AGCC database and I was struck
>> by
>> > > just how many seeds are there and I wonder how many of
them have
>really
>> > > gotten a fair shake. With all those seeds there is way
to give them
>all
>> a
>> > > real shot and it is a better bet to plant proven
seeds. After
>all,seeds
>> > > are a crape shot as it is but still I have to wonder
if there isn't a
>> > > juggernaut hiding in there somewhere just waiting to
be discovered and
>> > > take off. After all the top seeds are hard
to come by and maybe we
>> will
>> > > find the next top seed.
>> > >
>> > > I would like to get the
group's feedback on this subject and maybe
>> > > some seeds they think are undiscovered monsters.
>> > >
>> > > Here are some that I think might be:
>> > >
>> > > Brock 685
>> > > Wray 738
>> > > Welty 809
>> > > Sproule 952
>> > > McCallum 566
>> > > and first generation 825 Shymanski offspring. (The 801
Stelts can't be
>> the
>> > > only one with such stellar genetics).
>> > >
>> > > Then again I could be wrong
but look at the example of the 903
>> > > Holland. It was grown in 97 and after its first year
no one grew a
>huge
>> > > pumpkin with it and people lost interest but
this year out of no
>where
>> > > Joel Holland grew a 808, 967 and 1026 with it. I bet
it will get more
>> > > attention this year!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Any thoughts?
>> > >
>> > > John
>> > >
>> >
>> >
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Thanks,
Bill Van Iderstine
P.E.I. Record Holder @ 862 lbs.
http://aggc.1wh.com/aggc.asp
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