Re: heavy to the charts


>Mike,  Good topic.  Being in one of hottest growing environments I have
>seen weights all over the place.  What I have observed is orange pumpkins
>tend to weigh light and cream pumpkins weigh heavy.  Now there is the
>occasional orange pumpkin that weighs heavy but rarely.  Now in the bay
>area where it is cooler the orange pumpkins weigh to the charts or a little
>heavy.  Almost always the cream colored pumpkins weigh to the carts or a
>several percentage points above the charts.  I would have to guess but from
>a CA perspective  that weight is genetic.  Several years ago I had a bright
>orange pumpkin that weighed 70 lbs. under the chart the other pumpkin on
>that same plant was cream colored and was 70 lbs. over the chart explain
>that one?
>My thought is cream colored pumpkins tend to have thicker walls?
>Jon
>
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Jon,
That 70 under and 70 over on the same plant just about  made me throw in
the towel.
 Yeah I think the genetics have to be there.  What interesting is I can
only think of one Cal pumpkin that comes close to the 15-20% heavy.........
a 740 from napa .....100 heavy.........and that pumpkin was grown under
shade cloth ................geez look at the PNW they had all kinds of
pumpkins weigh extremely  heavy and some were orange......... Seems the
slower grown pumpkins or the staggered cool then warm might have something
to do with it.  Hard to tell.

Also I used to always grow pumpkins that were 60 lbs heavy.  I tried moving
My Mag  and Potass up and my pumpkins this season were not as heavy.  The
Genetics were there for heaviness.  But some how  it might be related to
the Mag ,K and Calcium ratio's....................I tried to look up Kens
801  as I thought it was heavy to the charts??................whats kinda
interesting is Dave my pumpkin partner pumpkins are always light.......50
to 100lbs and we have totally different soil types.  We planted the same
genetic backgrounds.....................

 look at that awesome grower Larue and he was heavy with all kinds of
genetic backgrounds. So I am  not convinced that heavy to the charts is all
genetics.... can it be enhanced by the grower practices so I am looking for
patterns.

 Can you think of any Cal pumpkins that  have been heavy to the charts
15-20%?? ................Mbrock






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