Re: 869 Calai flat vine / 1020 Papez FLAT VINE ?
In Don Langevin's second book, chapter 14, he theorizes that the increase in
the frequency of connected multiple vines is directly related to close
inbreeding. He suggests pruning the multiple vine and concentrating your
efforts on a normal secondary. The book is definitely worth a read,
especially for the newbys.
Happy Independence Day and good pollination
Craig
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Papez" <apapez@cogeco.ca>
To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: 869 Calai flat vine / 1020 Papez FLAT VINE ?
> the 869.5 has the shymanski in the background also
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Papez" <apapez@cogeco.ca>
> To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 2:20 AM
> Subject: Re: 869 Calai flat vine / 1020 Papez FLAT VINE ?
>
>
> > I starting to think its the 825.5 shymanski genetics thats causing the
> flat
> > vine in the 1020. The 825.5 shymanski flat vine on me and was used to
> > pollinate the 1056.5 dueck. Every 1020 I have seen out this way and
> several
> > on the list is flat vining. Davaid I would not use the 1020 as a
> pollinator.
> >
> > andrew
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <mwronski81@attbi.com>
> > To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 8:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: 869 Calai flat vine / 1020 Papez FLAT VINE ?
> >
> >
> > > I have to agree,... my 1020 is a mutant .... 4 inch thick flat vine,
24
> > inch
> > > leaves (young leaves) growing like a BUSH squash!!!! unbelieveable
> > looking.
> > > The main (flat) vine is about 10 feet now, no signs of buds (female
> > flowers
> > > yet) and it is not splitting off and no real secondary vine to speak
of
> > yet.
> > >
> > > I think this plant is going to turn into a pollinator.
> > >
> > > Anybody out there have a 1020 Papez that is growing a normal vine?
> > >
> > > David
> > > Sterling, MA
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mark K." <korney19@adelphia.net>
> > > To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:43 AM
> > > Subject: RE: 869 Calai flat vine
> > >
> > >
> > > > See the thread "RE: 1020 Papez (& its roommate 594 Smith, the
> > > Octipumpkins;
> > > > LONG LIVE THE ebay ESCAPEE 1062 RIVARD)" from early last week;
similar
> > > > problems on the 1020 Papez, a daughter of the 846 Calai. Is it the
> > Calai,
> > > or
> > > > is it coincidental, or maybe the seeds got irradiated in the mail
this
> > > year
> > > > popping lots of doubles/flats/mutants?
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
> Behalf
> > > > Of BILL J. SADOWSKI
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 11:39 PM
> > > > To: INTERNET:pumpkins@hort.net
> > > > Subject: 869 Calai flat vine
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone planted the 869 Calai? I had a very strange thing
happen
> to
> > > > me, never seen this before. My Calai 869 shot out secondary vine
> > pretty
> > > > close to the stump and flat vined. I let it grow some (about 8')
but
> > it
> > > > split into two more flat vines. I cut this secondary off today.
> The
> > > > rest of the plant is growing like gang busters.
> > > > I planted this seed last year and did not experience this strange
> event.
> > > > Anyone have a similar experience?
> > > > Bill Sadowski, in Ohio and pushing to pollinate a female.
> > > >
> > >
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