Re: Heavy rains
- Subject: Re: Heavy rains
- From: d*@aol.com
- Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 09:26:43 -0400
My thought is that if you do not cover all the segments from head to
toe...possible for a bad shaped pumpkin that when it gets too large will split
due to shape issue or internal issues. Although my PB is only 1355 lbs, (~400
lbs off the WR LOL) even at that range you will see that if you don't have a
perfect pumpkin shape...things get dicey! So the first step is to get that
perfect pollination! Next is Stem issues! :-)
My thoughts.
Dave Bhaskaran
Rochester, MN.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Fri, Jul 9, 2010 7:48 am
Subject: RE: Heavy rains
Guys, when I started growing AG's 20 years ago, I would jam one male stamen
nto the female flower and go to work. I ALWAYS got fruit. I like the rest
f you, want the best success as possible. I guess my point is this. If the
ollen reaches the pistil, the chances of fertilizing the ovary are pretty
arn good. I'm speaking from personal experience but in my humble
pinion.......just get some pollen on her.
Steve Haberman
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rom: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
bhaskaran@aol.com
ent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:34 AM
o: pumpkins@hort.net
ubject: Re: Heavy rains
Debbie,
f the forecast for the day says >90 degrees...you might want to use the ice
and bucket over it) to keep it cooler.
his is not an exact science. :-)
ave.
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rom: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
o: pumpkins@hort.net
ent: Thu, Jul 8, 2010 11:36 pm
ubject: Re: Heavy rains
am having a premature senior moment: I should ice if going to be >90 or
ce
ter pollinating if temps greater than 70? How long do I cool the female
nd
ade it? What happens if you forget to cover the male and female the night
fore?
ebbie
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om: "dbhaskaran@aol.com" <dbhaskaran@aol.com>
: pumpkins@hort.net
nt: Thu, July 8, 2010 8:10:55 AM
bject: Re: Heavy rains
i Debbie,
ve grown pumpkins since 1970, so I'm pretty good at getting the females and
les the night before they open...but can be tricky...I usually look for a
ranging" of the blossom. As you learn, you'll get better.
o on the anything over 70 gets ice...any day that is over 90. Yes,
tyrofoam
er the blossom would keep it cooler and better.
was just saying if the morning temps are 70, you can pollinate early...you
n still wait awhile..should be good for a few hours...but normally if the
rning temps are in the 70s...going to need the cooler...unless it stays in
e 70s and 80s.
es, if temp >90 keep cool till the air temp is back down.
avid Bhaskaran
chester, MN.
-----Original Message-----
om: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
: pumpkins@hort.net
nt: Thu, Jul 8, 2010 7:27 am
bject: Re: Heavy rains
nteresting. How do you know when the female is ready to open the next day?
thing over 70 get's ice? Is the ice under a Styrofoam cooler? And if it
s
pose to be up in the mid- 80's keep the cooler on until evening?
bbie
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m: "dbhaskaran@aol.com" <dbhaskaran@aol.com>
pumpkins@hort.net
t: Wed, July 7, 2010 10:53:06 PM
ject: Re: Heavy rains
bbie,
, you will need to always cover the female and 3 males the night before!
th glad bags).
ve pollinated during a pouring rain...the key is to insure it stays dry
ing pollination and then using glad bags....keeping it dry for at least
rs. Here are somethings I do if it is an important set:
Rain:
Use an umbrella
Cold Mornings:
Wait till the temp gets up a bit >60 degrees...you can tell by the pollen
the male or use more males.
The goal is to cover all the segments with lots of pollen from head to
.
Hot Mornings:
get it early...I've done them at 5:30am if the temp is 70
put ice around the bloom and let it melt into the soil will help keep the
a cooler.
Pumpkins won't set in hot weather...I'm guessing >90 degrees...so need to
p cooler.
od luck
id Bhaskaran
hester, MN
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m: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
pumpkins@hort.net
t: Wed, Jul 7, 2010 10:05 pm
ject: Re: Heavy rains
other question - does the weather affect your decision to pollinate? If it
ppose to rain on the morning you are pollinating, does that cause problems?
u need to cover both the male and females with cups the night before?
bie
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: Kathie Morgan <fishrap@att.net>
pumpkins@hort.net
: Wed, July 7, 2010 6:37:20 PM
ect: Re: Heavy rains
eck it after one day. Usually the blossom has closed up by then.
s year for an unknown reason I have to leave them on for two days before
som closes.
l let someone else tackle the rest of your questions.
hie
Jul 7, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Debbie Runkle wrote:
thie, you mentioned that you use Dixie cups over the flower after
lination. How long do you leave the cup on?
w long before females form on the vine? I transplanted 5/25/2001 and only
e two females on the main, one of which just 'hatched'. I have used
30-15
ce, the second time was yesterday. How long will the secondaries grow
ore
y produce females?
bbie
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m: Kathie Morgan <fishrap@att.net>
pumpkins@hort.net
t: Sun, June 27, 2010 1:12:22 PM
ject: Re: Heavy rains
Jun 27, 2010, at 8:40 AM, Jason Thomas wrote:
You can tie the female bloom closed with twine or a twisty tie before it
ens. Most growers do that so they can control the source of pollen that
es in.
Guys!
Al Eaton told us that he uses Dixie cups to cover his females after
lination. We tried it and it's perfect. Just use one hand to gather the
als together, then use the other hand to ease the cup down over the
som.
use 16-ounce cups.
thie in Santa Rosa
hat would keep water out to a certain extent too. You could put up
small piece of tarp (like 1sq ft) with some bamboo stakes over the
wer,
pecially after you pollinate. You can cut or tear small holes in the
rolla below the stigma or anther in both female and male flowers to help
em drain after a rain. I used to do that when I had my plants growing out
er the lawn where they would get sprinkled every morning. But only use
at method on female flowers if you don't care about stray pollen getting
. How hot is it there? I've found once it gets hot enough (100+) here
owers wont pollinate even if the flowers are cooled. However in the 80s
d 90s they will pollinate but only if I cool them by putting a small
yrofoam cooler upside down over the flower the night before opening with
rozen water bottle inside for cooling. The styrofoam cooler method will
so keep the rain out but you only want to use it for a day or two because
u don't want to encourage rot.
n Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Jeff Potter
aple-leaf@kpe.biglobe.ne.jp>wrote:
I live in southern Japan, and have been trying to grow pumpkins, ANY SIZE
pumpkins, for several years, with no luck. I didn't really put much effort
into it, just planted and waited, not really knowing what I was doing.
I got the giant pumpkin bug when I received some seeds from the local
champion, a 200 kger.I've done some studying, finally got a copy of Don
Langevin's Giant Pumpkins II, did what I could with the soil in the
ing,
planted both in pots and directly, and have got some amazing, big,
healthy-looking plants. I have a lot of male flowers, and several females
not
yet bloomed. I am out at 5:00am every morning just in case. In Don's book,
he
says I will know when the flower is ready to bloom, but I am not so sure.
My
problem is, we have a major rainy season here in Asia, it has rained
heavily
for 2 straight days, with a forecast for more, until Thursday. My question
is,
how can I protect my ladies, will the heavy rain have an effect on them
even
if they do not open, and if they do, can I pollinate them in the rain.
Thanks, first time poster,
Jeff
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