RE: Heavy rains

Guys, when I started growing AG's 20 years ago, I would jam one male stamen
into the female flower and go to work. I ALWAYS got fruit. I like the rest
of you, want the best success as possible. I guess my point is this. If the
pollen reaches the pistil, the chances of fertilizing the ovary are pretty
darn good. I'm speaking from personal experience but in my humble
opinion.......just get some pollen on her.

Steve Haberman


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From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
dbhaskaran@aol.com
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:34 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: Heavy rains

Debbie,
If the forecast for the day says >90 degrees...you might want to use the ice
(and bucket over it) to keep it cooler.
This is not an exact science. :-)
Dave.






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From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Thu, Jul 8, 2010 11:36 pm
Subject: Re: Heavy rains


I am having a premature senior moment: I should ice if going to be >90 or
ice
fter pollinating if temps greater than 70?  How long do I cool the female
and
hade it?  What happens if you forget to cover the male and female the night
efore?
Debbie


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rom: "dbhaskaran@aol.com" <dbhaskaran@aol.com>
o: pumpkins@hort.net
ent: Thu, July 8, 2010 8:10:55 AM
ubject: Re: Heavy rains
Hi Debbie,
've grown pumpkins since 1970, so I'm pretty good at getting the females and
ales the night before they open...but can be tricky...I usually look for a
oranging" of the blossom.  As you learn, you'll get better.
No on the anything over 70 gets ice...any day that is over 90.  Yes,
Styrofoam
ver the blossom would keep it cooler and better.
 was just saying if the morning temps are 70, you can pollinate early...you
an still wait awhile..should be good for a few hours...but normally if the
orning temps are in the 70s...going to need the cooler...unless it stays in
he 70s and 80s.
Yes, if temp  >90 keep cool till the air temp is back down.
David Bhaskaran
ochester, MN.



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rom: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
o: pumpkins@hort.net
ent: Thu, Jul 8, 2010 7:27 am
ubject: Re: Heavy rains

nteresting.  How do you know when the female is ready to open the next day?
ything over 70 get's ice?  Is the ice under a Styrofoam cooler?  And if it
is
ppose to be up in the mid- 80's keep the cooler on until evening?
ebbie

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om: "dbhaskaran@aol.com" <dbhaskaran@aol.com>
: pumpkins@hort.net
nt: Wed, July 7, 2010 10:53:06 PM
bject: Re: Heavy rains
ebbie,
s, you will need to always cover the female and 3 males the night before!
ith glad bags).
ave pollinated during a pouring rain...the key is to insure it stays dry
ring pollination and then using glad bags....keeping it dry for at least
hrs.  Here are somethings I do if it is an important set:
r Rain:
 Use an umbrella
r Cold Mornings:
 Wait till the temp gets up a bit >60 degrees...you can tell by the pollen
 the male or use more males.
 The goal is to cover all the segments with lots of pollen from head to
e.
r Hot Mornings:
 get it early...I've done them at 5:30am if the temp is 70
 put ice around the bloom and let it melt into the soil will help keep the
ea cooler.
 Pumpkins won't set in hot weather...I'm guessing >90 degrees...so need to
ep cooler.
ood luck
vid Bhaskaran
chester, MN


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om: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
: pumpkins@hort.net
nt: Wed, Jul 7, 2010 10:05 pm
bject: Re: Heavy rains
nother question - does the weather affect your decision to pollinate?  If it

ppose to rain on the morning you are pollinating, does that cause problems?
ou need to cover both the male and females with cups the night before?
bbie
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m: Kathie Morgan <fishrap@att.net>
 pumpkins@hort.net
t: Wed, July 7, 2010 6:37:20 PM
ject: Re: Heavy rains
heck it after one day. Usually the blossom has closed up by then.
is year for an unknown reason I have to leave them on for two days before
e
ssom closes.
ll let someone else tackle the rest of your questions.
thie
 Jul 7, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Debbie Runkle wrote:
athie, you mentioned that you use Dixie cups over the flower after
llination.  How long do you leave the cup on?
ow long before females form on the vine?  I transplanted 5/25/2001 and only
ve two females on the main, one of which just 'hatched'.  I have used
-30-15
ice, the second time was yesterday.  How long will the secondaries grow
fore
ey produce females?
ebbie

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om: Kathie Morgan <fishrap@att.net>
: pumpkins@hort.net
nt: Sun, June 27, 2010 1:12:22 PM
bject: Re: Heavy rains
n Jun 27, 2010, at 8:40 AM, Jason Thomas wrote:
 You can tie the female bloom closed with twine or a twisty tie before it
pens. Most growers do that so they can control the source of pollen that
oes in.
i Guys!
r Al Eaton told us that he uses Dixie cups to cover his females after
llination. We tried it and it's perfect. Just use one hand to gather the
tals together, then use the other hand to ease the cup down over the
ssom.
 use 16-ounce cups.
athie in Santa Rosa
That would keep water out to a certain extent too. You could put up
 small piece of tarp (like 1sq ft) with some bamboo stakes over the
ower,
specially after you pollinate. You can cut or tear small holes in the
orolla below the stigma or anther in both female and male flowers to help
hem drain after a rain. I used to do that when I had my plants growing out
ver the lawn where they would get sprinkled every morning. But only use
hat method on female flowers if you don't care about stray pollen getting
n. How hot is it there? I've found once it gets hot enough (100+)  here
lowers wont pollinate even if the flowers are cooled.  However in the 80s
nd 90s they will pollinate but only if I cool them by putting a small
tyrofoam cooler upside down over the flower the night before opening with
frozen water bottle inside for cooling. The styrofoam cooler method will
lso keep the rain out but you only want to use it for a day or two because
ou don't want to encourage rot.
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Jeff Potter
maple-leaf@kpe.biglobe.ne.jp>wrote:
> I live in southern Japan, and have been trying to grow pumpkins, ANY SIZE
 pumpkins, for several years, with no luck. I didn't really put much effort
 into it, just planted and waited, not really knowing what I was doing.
 I got the giant pumpkin bug when I received some seeds from the local
 champion, a 200 kger.I've done some studying, finally got a copy of Don
 Langevin's Giant Pumpkins II, did what I could with the soil in the
ring,
 planted both in pots and directly, and have got some amazing, big,
 healthy-looking plants. I have a lot of male flowers, and several females
 not
 yet bloomed. I am out at 5:00am every morning just in case. In Don's book,
 he
 says I will know when the flower is ready to bloom, but I am not so sure.
 My
 problem is, we have a major rainy season here in Asia, it has rained
 heavily
 for 2 straight days, with a forecast for more, until Thursday. My question
 is,
 how can I protect my ladies, will the heavy rain have an effect on them
 even
 if they do not open, and if they do, can I pollinate them in the rain.

 Thanks, first time poster,

 Jeff

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