RE: cuke beetles

You are an equal opportunity gardener. Like I said, you will commonly have
both in the upper Midwest.

P.S. How did the free dinner go? I once had a date (now my lovely wife) that
said "If you don't shut the Hell up about pumpkins, I'm walking out of this
restaurant!"
She has since come to her senses.

Steve Haberman

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Debbie Runkle
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 1:04 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: cuke beetles

Ok, I have both spotted and striped.  Geez....

Debbie





________________________________
From: Jason Thomas <j.endlesstrail@gmail.com>
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 10:28:53 AM
Subject: Re: cuke beetles

*go to google, type in 'cucumber beetle', click on search button. Then click
'Images', the second link in the upper right.  Or use the link below.*
**
*http://tinyurl.com/2b7u93c*

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Kathie Morgan <fishrap@att.net> wrote:

> What do they look like (aside from the yellow stripe)?
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2010, at 6:06 AM, Debbie Runkle wrote:
>
> Kathie, then what are the yellow striped bugs?
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Kathie Morgan <fishrap@att.net>
>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>> Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 11:18:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: cuke beetles
>>
>> Debbie,
>> The yellow lady bug beetles are cucumber beetles. Aka cuke beetles. Aka
>> diabrotica, the diabolical diabrotica. Get rid of them if you can.
>> Good luck!
>> Kathie
>>
>>
>> On Jul 28, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Debbie Runkle wrote:
>>
>> Sucks to be me!  I plan on going to HD tomorrow to get Triazicide for the
>>> cuke
>>> beetles.  I bought the wrong stuff the other day.  Of course I have
plans
>>> tomorrow night and won't be able to spray until Friday.  At least I hope
>>> to
>>>
>> get
>>
>>> a free dinner out of it!
>>>
>>>
>>> I think my neighbors got a kick out of me running through the patches
>>> holding
>>>
>> a
>>
>>> container with soap and water trying to get the beetles.  It was quite
an
>>> interesting dance.  Can I spray dish soap and water using a household
>>> sprayer
>>> or
>>> will it hurt the plants.  I would be much easier to spray in mid-flight
>>> and
>>> then
>>> laugh at their slow death (compliments of Dawn).
>>>
>>> What are the yellow colored lady bug beetles?  I know the orange ones
are
>>>
>> Asian
>>
>>> beetles.
>>>
>>> Debbie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Robert Steckroth <robertsteckroth@gmail.com>
>>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>>> Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 9:00:45 PM
>>> Subject: Re: cuke beetles
>>>
>>> My patch is organic, haha. Is this a common problem in every state? Or
>>> will
>>> I get problems when the beatles stumble across my patch. Even my mold
>>> stopped spreading! Sorry Deb, sometimes it only hurts other people.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:48 PM, <rstokes@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The most effective chemical on cucumber beetle is Lambda-cyhalothrin
(aka
>>>> Warrior T or Scimitar)  These are not readily available to the average
>>>> home
>>>> gardner.  However, Triaicide has a small percentage of this chemical in
>>>> it.
>>>> Usually you can buy Triaicide from Home Depot or other places that sell
>>>> chemicals to home gardners. Lamda-cyhalothri is a synthetic pyrethrum
>>>> and is
>>>> used in food production. It is long lasting and the ready to harvest is
>>>> usually around 21 days after a treatment of Lambda-cyhalothrin.  I
don't
>>>> use
>>>> Scimitar or Warror T for several reasons.  One they are very expensive
>>>> and a
>>>> whiskey shot glass of Warrior T is all I would need for a season.  It
>>>> usually is sold in 2 1/2 gal. jugs so it comes in a volume way to large
>>>> for
>>>> my use.  I use Triacide at 2 and three times the recommended rate and
>>>> have
>>>> good success in knocking back the cucumber beetle.  Also, using
>>>> Imidichloprin (Merit) as a drench, it works as a systemic and gives me
a
>>>> double punch in knocking out !
>>>> the cuke beetle and other pests.  What I have experienced is that
>>>> Triacide
>>>> and a treatment of Merit keeps me cucumber beetle free for at least two
>>>> weeks.  These treatments also seem to be effective against squash bugs.
>>>> Another factor to consider, is to be as effective as possible when
>>>> applying
>>>> a chemical. Use a sprayer that will put out a pattern that will coat
the
>>>> top
>>>> and bottom and even the stems of the plants.  I like to mix a cocktail
>>>> of
>>>> Triacide and Neptunes harvest together.  I've had good results by doing
>>>> this.  I find that the best time to spray is around 5pm, there is still
>>>> enough activity of the cuke beetle to get nailed as well as very little
>>>> activity of honey bees which I try to protect.  I might mention that I
>>>> am
>>>> certified and licensed by the state to buy and spray restricted
>>>> chemicals. I
>>>> have a little background in this area.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---- Jason Thomas <j.endlesstrail@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think pyrethrins work on soft-bodied insects like aphids and not
>>>>>
>>>> beetles.
>>>>
>>>>> Usually the product labelling will list the insects that it is
>>>>> effective
>>>>>
>>>> on.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
>>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I purchased Spectracide Garden Insect Killer containing 0.3%
>>>>>>
>>>>> Pyrethrins.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> guessing that I purchased the wrong stuff?  I sprayed a couple of
>>>>>>
>>>>> nights
>>>>
>>>>> ago and
>>>>>> they are still around.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: Russ Stokes <rstokes@wi.rr.com>
>>>>>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>>>>>> Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 6:27:10 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: cuke beetles
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been growing squash, pumpkins, gourds for a long time.
>>>>>>  Cucumber
>>>>>> beetles
>>>>>> on your plant is a sure sign that if not treated promptly, more than
>>>>>>
>>>>> likely
>>>>
>>>>> you
>>>>>> will get bacterial wilt.  The bacteria proliferates while the beetle
>>>>>> ingests
>>>>>> from an infected leaf and then passes the disease to the other
leaves,
>>>>>> until you
>>>>>> have a stunted dying plant.  Here is what I recommend:
>>>>>> Purchase Bayer Advance Fruit, Citrus and Vegetable Insect Control.
It
>>>>>> contains
>>>>>> Imidacloprid (Merit)  I usually use the recommended dosage, dump this
>>>>>>
>>>>> in a
>>>>
>>>>> 5
>>>>>> gallon bucket and fill the bucket with water.  Then for each plant I
>>>>>>
>>>>> slowly
>>>>
>>>>> dump
>>>>>> the contents around the base of the plants.  This is a systemic
>>>>>>
>>>>> insecticide
>>>>
>>>>> so
>>>>>> it usually will kill insects that bite into the plant.  I then
>>>>>>
>>>>> thoroughly
>>>>
>>>>> spray
>>>>>> the leaves with Triazicide, again I use the recommended rate.  I do
>>>>>> all
>>>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>> this
>>>>>> either in early morning or in the evening.  These two controls works
>>>>>>
>>>>> well
>>>>
>>>>> on
>>>>>> cuke beetle, squash bug and other pests.  Make sure you protect
>>>>>>
>>>>> yourself
>>>>
>>>>> from
>>>>>> the chemicals by wearing protective clothing or at least where long
>>>>>>
>>>>> pants
>>>>
>>>>> and a
>>>>>> shirt with glasses. The chemical in Triazicide is a synthetic
>>>>>> pyrethrum
>>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> if
>>>>>> it touches the skin you will feel a burning sensation and itch.  Good
>>>>>>
>>>>> Luck.
>>>>
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