I can't seem to find a measuring tape to take readings for my pumpkin. I currently use a 8 foot....I think I will have to start using my surveying tape of 100 feet. -- Duncan McAlpine, Federal Way, WA m*@eskimo.com Why buy plants when you can grow them yourself.....? http://www.eskimo.com/~mcalpin/ http://www.eskimo.com/~mcalpin/pumkin.html