Re: vines

Doug,
 How big is your patch? this affects some growers choice in how long to
let the secondaries grow.  If you patch is only 16 ft wide then you are
stuck with 8 ft on each side.  If you have lots of space, I would
suggest 12-16 ft per side.  After you set a pumpkin then it is
recommended that you let the vine that it is on grow another 10-15 ft
past the pumpkin.  you can always train a secondary with a pumpkin on it
back around into the patch. ( I might have to do this, this year) Some
growers think that most of the energy the goes into a pumpkin comes from
"the vine" that it is on.  I just read the other day where a grower grew
4 pumpkins on one plant - all over 500 lb. (or was it 600 lb.???) 
The Christmas tree shape does naturally occur.  If you cut and bury 
your secondaries at a certain length then the Christmas tree shape
becomes a rectangle with a Christmas tree shape on the one end. 
That is the shape that I shoot for.  

Gordon Tanner
Maple Valley, WA

>friends,  if i grow my vines in a christmas shape, how wide will the
>first two secondiers get from tip to tip?  i am trying to figure out
how
>wide to put in my soaker hoses.  i am going to run the hoses back and
>forth. i didn't see any need to go around the plant if the growth all
>goes one way. should you try to grow all your secondies the same length
>or do you get a christmas tree shape naturally because the first
>secondies are a lot older than the ones at the end of the main.  thank
>you Doug Adams

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