Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #366


Greg:

I for one do not give a hoot why you are upset with Ray Watrman, but why
must you waste our time reading your
worthless tiatribes.

I agree with the previous posts about just deleting your posts but I am
always hopeful you will say something worthwhile, so far I am wrong.

Bob Attaway


----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Sanchez" <jordangregory@hotmail.com>
To: <phuffer@insight.rr.com>; <pumpkins@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #366


>
>      No Paul, I wouldn't ever buy another seed from Ray. The only reason I
> complain is that I ordered seeds from him about three years ago.  I called
> his company a month later and the person who answered the phone said they
> couldn't find my order.  Apparently there was only one person who worked
> there who could.  They didn't offer to call me back when that person was
in,
> I just had to call back for about 3 days until that person was there.  A
> month after this, I finally got my seeds.  When I had written to this list
> saying my seeds were not at my home yet, many growers sent me free seeds.
> Needless to say, I used the free seeds and put Ray's seeds that came with
no
> genetics on the shelf.
>      I feel that if I am given horrible service, I have the right to
> complain and let others know so they don't have to give business to
someone
> like that.
>      Aside from the above complaint, I am against selling seeds for the
fact
> that I think it will start to cause fraud, and the genetics will be ruined
> when one thinks they have a great seed that is really a 250 Sanchez.  If
Ray
> and others want to sell other products, such as tarps ect., that is not a
> problem, but I will always warn others of the horrible service that most
> likely awaits them.  Maybe his service is better now, it very well could
be.
>   Maybe when he takes 2 months to send out a seed now it is due to a huge
> error and he apologizes or even gives a discount.  That would be a smart
> business practice that would have left me a non-complaining return
customer
> for items other that seeds.  But if one needs a lifting tarp, go with the
> Reynolds.  It has worked great for me and came in a week.
> Greg
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Paul Huffer" <phuffer@insight.rr.com>
> Reply-To: pumpkins@hort.net
> To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #366
> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 07:09:57 -0500
>
> I have to agree with Eda , when it gets like this it's best to back off &
> leave it go. When I first started I ordered from both Ray & Howard, had no
> complaint with either person. Now I get my seed through trades or sending
> b-pacs to growers , but if either Ray or Howard had something I wanted I
> wouldn't hesitate to order in a minute & everyone on the list knows that
if
> Ray had more 845 Bobiers 00 at say $10-15 apiece you would all swallow
your
> pride & write a check.....right?
>   What I'm getting at is we all know they are buisness men & if you have a
> buisness your first priority is to sell your buisness...correct?
>   If you don't try to sell your buisness you will fail in a second, so if
> you don't like Ray's or anyone else's post don't open it......delete it.
> There are threads all the time that pop up & I know they are of no real
use
> & I just delete them without opening them.
> When you look at the big picture isn't it easier to take a second & click
> something off, than to chance burning a lot of bridges you might want to
> cross back on later?
>      Just a thought..............Paul
>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: FmrJohnsPumpkins@aol.com
>    To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>    Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 12:41 AM
>    Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #366
>
>
>    Hey, people, I hate to sound naive - aren't we getting a little vicious
> here?  Is this what this list is all about?  What is going on here?  How
is
> this helpful?  Let's knock this off and go kick some compost or something.
> Remember September 11th.
>
>    Eda from Farmer John's Pumpkins
>
>
>
>      >To: pumpkins@hort.net
>      >Subject: Re: seed order
>      >Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 12:54:50 -0800
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >Thanks Ray, and I am glad to see the only times you post on here is
to
>      >advertise your company.  When was the last post from Ray Waterman
> helping
>      >out a newbie with how to water his plants or how to prune his vines?
>      >Greg
>
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