RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #513

We do not reply often, but read everything that comes along and appreciate
all the information
we get every year.  We are here and want to see the list continue.  We will
try to contribute more and do our share for the lists' survival.  Thank you
all who have taught us so much!
Eda and Farmer John

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Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #513


pumpkins DIGEST        Wednesday, May 10 2006        Volume 01 : Number 513



In this issue:

        Re: An open question to all members
        Re: An open question to all members
        Re: An open question to all members
        Re: An open question to all members
        Re: An open question to all members
        Re: panic attack!
        Re: panic attack!
        RE: An open question to all members
        Christopher Lindsey--Thanks
        plants
        Re: An open question to all members
        A Big "T-Y"
        Re: Re:Patience it is then!  Thanks Mark
        Re: An open question to all members
        Re: plants

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Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 08:19:23 -0400
From: Glenn Peters <gpeters@ll.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: An open question to all members

Bob: I've been a member as well since the early days of this list, i also 
believe that a lot of the info is now exchanged via Bigpumpkins.com
although this list still works well, for quick responses.

Glenn Peters

At 05:16 PM 5/8/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>I have belonged to the Mallorn list for a long time. When I first joined it
>was a forum for growers to learn from other growers about seeds,
>planting,pruning and a lot of other things. It was an actual exchange of
>knowledge.
>
> From the posts lately it seems there is very little exchange of helpful
>information, just my opinion!
>
>I now question the value of the Mallorn list?
>
>I welcome any and all opinions?
>
>Bob Attaway
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:06:11 -0400
From: "Mike Nepereny" <aggc@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: An open question to all members

I think another reason posts are declining may be due to technical issues
with
this site. I have posted a lot of things that just never show up here. I
think
others have experienced the same thing. After a while you just give up.

I highly recommend the GVGO site and it's message board for information and
communications.

Mike
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 09:13:44 -0500
From: "Christopher P. Lindsey" <lindsey@mallorn.com>
Subject: Re: An open question to all members

> I think another reason posts are declining may be due to technical issues
with
> this site. I have posted a lot of things that just never show up here. I
think
> others have experienced the same thing. After a while you just give up.

Hi Mike,

   In your specific case, it's probably because you're posting from a 
   different email address than you're signed up with.

   Each of your emails has to be manually approved before it goes out
   (like this one), so there's often a delay.

   That's the case with a lot of other people on the list too.

   If you guys can change your email addresses to match it would help
   a lot; then message flow would be instantaneous and I'd have a lot
   less work to do.  :)

Chris

www.bonvivantnursery.com
http://www.hort.net/gallery/      3961 online plant photos and growing!
http://www.hort.net/gallery/date/2006-02-27/       The latest additions
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 09:20:54 -0500
From: "Christopher P. Lindsey" <lindsey@mallorn.com>
Subject: Re: An open question to all members

> This list had it's heyday. But it's a system designed for 1996, not 2006. 
> You can't even post a photo or attach a spreadsheet to this list. 
> There were perhaps good reasons for that, at that time. But, where would
> we be without photos???

You guys need to communicate this to me!  I know it's not your fault that
the site doesn't meet your needs, but it's not going to change unless
someone tells me what they need.

I was trying to solicit testers for a system a couple of years ago that 
would allow image use, Web-based posting, and a threaded pumpkins newsgroup,
but nobody responded.  :(

The biggest reason for disallowing images and attachments was file size.
With 517 people on the list, the network traffic used to send out files
was too great -- a 100K image suddenly becomes 51MB of email traffic.
That's not too bad, but if there were lots of images being passed around...

Now, the question is whether or not it's too late to make whatever changes
you wanted or if you guys prefer the other forums.

Chris

www.bonvivantnursery.com
http://www.hort.net/gallery/      3961 online plant photos and growing!
http://www.hort.net/gallery/date/2006-02-27/       The latest additions
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:21:16 -0400
From: "Mike Nepereny" <aggc@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: An open question to all members

Chris,

I stand corrected. I had no idea each post had to be individually approved.
Thank you for the information.

Mike
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 10:58:13 -0400
From: davecbauer@aol.com
Subject: Re: panic attack!

Frozen Stock!? Wow, send to: Dave Bauer
                                          W67 N222 Evergreen Blvd, #204
                                          Cedarburg, WI 
 
Thank you for your help! 
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: gbpumpkin@aol.com
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Mon, 8 May 2006 15:55:31 -0400
Subject: Re: panic attack!


Address?  I'll send some from my frozen Stock Priority Mail.
 
George 
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: davecbauer@aol.com
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Mon, 8 May 2006 14:29:51 -0400
Subject: panic attack!


 Anyone out there have any seeds? I can't locate my supply from last fall?
Any 
help would be appreciated.
 
Thanks, 
 
Dave
330 '96
 
- -----Original Message-----
From: Robert <robert@maro.net>
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:39:21 -0400
Subject: Planted!


Well we have seeds in the Dirt! 
check us out... :-) 
 
http://www.geocities.com/gapumpkin/index.htm 
 
Robert 
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 07:54:38 -0700
From: CaClear <wolffpacklives@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: panic attack!

Hi Dave,
I have seeds that I haven't planted.  These are mostly seeds I have 
gotten from other people, but if there is a specific seed you want let 
me know and I will look at what I have.  Everyone has been so helpful to 
me and I would be glad to help someone else out.
Carol


davecbauer@aol.com wrote:

> Anyone out there have any seeds? I can't locate my supply from last fall?
Any help would be appreciated.
> 
>Thanks, 
> 
>Dave
>330 '96
> 
>-----Original Message-----
>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>Sent: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:39:21 -0400
>Subject: Planted!
>
>
>Well we have seeds in the Dirt! 
>check us out... :-) 
> 
>http://www.geocities.com/gapumpkin/index.htm 
> 
>Robert 
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:22:26 -0700
From: "Valerie" <anda123@pacbell.net>
Subject: RE: An open question to all members

Hi all,

I don't post very often, but I get so much information from this list! I
like really appreciate the quick responses and thoughtful answers. I find
lots of answers to my growing questions here from others. Personally, it is
very valuable to me. 

Thanks!

Valerie

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Glenn Peters
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 5:19 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: An open question to all members


Bob: I've been a member as well since the early days of this list, i also 
believe that a lot of the info is now exchanged via Bigpumpkins.com although
this list still works well, for quick responses.

Glenn Peters

At 05:16 PM 5/8/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>I have belonged to the Mallorn list for a long time. When I first 
>joined it was a forum for growers to learn from other growers about 
>seeds, planting,pruning and a lot of other things. It was an actual 
>exchange of knowledge.
>
> From the posts lately it seems there is very little exchange of 
>helpful information, just my opinion!
>
>I now question the value of the Mallorn list?
>
>I welcome any and all opinions?
>
>Bob Attaway
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Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 15:43:03 -0400
From: "Bob Attaway" <attaboy@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Christopher Lindsey--Thanks

I want to thank you for hosting this list for all these years. I hope I
remember correctly that you are the host.
 
I don't think the list is that out of date. 
 
This list had a moderator years ago, a guy from Washington State who worked
for an aircraft company, probably Boeing,
he did a good job of keeping the list on subject, I have no idea what
happened, but the list has seemed to have gotten off
subject.
 
I am totally unqualified to suggest technical improvements. A moderator with
technical skills might work.
 
My problem with the list is I get 2 responses to each post, and it is
aggravating, if the problem is on my end please give me a fix.
 
I want the Mallorn list to continue and prosper.
 
Chris, thanks again for your response:
 
Bob Attaway 
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 15:50:58 -0400
From: Glenn Peters <gpeters@ll.mit.edu>
Subject: plants

OK time to wake up the list..

what is everyone planting this year?

how is the season going so far?

I'll start

1420 LaRue - up, and outside

1446 Eaton -  up, and outside

881 Beauchemin (Squash) up and outside

1443 Palmer - failed to germinate.
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 14:35:57 -0400
From: "Mike Nepereny" <aggc@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: An open question to all members

>>I was trying to solicit testers for a system a couple of years ago that
>>would allow image use, Web-based posting, and a threaded pumpkins
newsgroup,
>>but nobody responded.  :(

>>Now, the question is whether or not it's too late to make whatever changes
>>you wanted or if you guys prefer the other forums.

Chris,

I for one would greatly enjoy seeing the Mallorn list revamped. It and the
GVGO message board are the only boards to which I post. Count me in as a
beta
tester for your new system.

Mike
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 16:18:57 EDT
From: Ezpumpkin@aol.com
Subject: A Big "T-Y"

I don't put my two cents in too often. 
 
But, on the subject of the existence of this bulletin  board/list.........
 
......... I'd like to give a big thanks to Chris and everyone who has
played 
a maintenance role in it. For years, this list has been out there for our  
use. To countless growers, this list has been invaluable. It remains an  
important tool for new and experienced growers alike.
 
I've volunteered my time and effort for things, too. So, I know first hand  
the time, effort, and personal resources that people commit to tasks and  
activities. Oftentimes, it is much more significant than it looks on the
surface.
 
I found this bulletin board invaluable during the years that Pumpkin  Nook 
held charitable seed auctions. As I think about it, people thanked me for
what 
I did. But, I never thanked Chris for the years of silent serivce.
 
Chris...... On behalf of myself, Pumpkin Nook, and the many visitors  that 
have used the list, I tip my lid (eeerrrrr hat)
 
Please keep up this great, and useful service!
 
Bob Matthews
 
pumpkinnook.com 
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 17:07:10 -0700
From: "Nancy Fleming" <cup_t_cake@ywave.com>
Subject: Re: Re:Patience it is then!  Thanks Mark

I don't think the problemis damping off. I do think it is moisture and
temperature like you suggested. I only had the one pumpkin seed whose
genetics
I was looking forward to using to get a little bigger pumpkin from the
Dills.
I use the damp towel/plastic bag method for beans and peas and a few other
seeds. Other seeds I start in my own starting mix and then transplant to the
garden. I expected the pumpkin seeds to jump out of the paper towel. I don't
know why because I do know about the vagaries of seed germination. In the
meantime, I prepped my pumpkin sites pretty much like the rest of the
garden,
except deeper. (Double dig method) I amended with manure, regular and worm
compost, gypsum and Biogro. I also sprayed compost tea, undiluted, on the
bare
soil. Then the weed block goes on over the whole area.  I have the framework
ready for a make-shift greenhouse for the pumpkins when I do get them
planted.
I have one Dill up and two others pushing the soil up in their pots. I was
hoping for at least 6 plants so I could cull more selectively.  I was hoping
one of the plants I saved would be the Larue/Bobier. The Dills will be great
for this first timer though.  Nancy
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 19:31:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Cliff Warren <cliffwarren@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: An open question to all members

I realize I might have sounded a little too harsh in my comments.
I hope nobody confuses that with thinking that I don't appreciate
the email list,... I do, very much so. In fact, I think I'm on the short
list of those who occasionally respond to new grower's questions.

Someone asked where has everybody gone, and I gave my 
opinion of where I think they've gone. Just trying to be as honest
as possible.

I do think this list could have a revival. We'd have to have some 
different angle, some core group of experts perhaps (not implying
me!), something to make it competitive..... For example, on other
forums it's gotten to the point where you ask a question and 
everyone responds with their opinion, no matter whether it's right
or wrong... it's kind of a jungle. I think there is a lot of opportunity
out there, this hobby is just getting started! ;-)


Cliff Warren <cliffwarren@yahoo.com> wrote: Here's my take...

As bigpumpkins.com has grown in size and capability, most of the
discussion (the good, the bad, and the ugly) has migrated over there.

This list had it's heyday. But it's a system designed for 1996, not 2006. 
You can't even post a photo or attach a spreadsheet to this list. 
There were perhaps good reasons for that, at that time. But, where would
we be without photos???

Now there are a lot of good club sites, and individual's sites. Take a 
look at gvgo.ca. Wow, that is an excellent site. There is some real content
there.

The bottom line is, this hobby is still very much married to the internet
age. It's just going much more modern. As I write this, I wonder if anyone
is left to read it? Then again, I think we're all still here, as the cost of

being on the list is zilch and it's easier to leave things be than actually 
figure out how to unsubscribe.

Bob Attaway  wrote: I have belonged to the Mallorn list for a long time.
When I first joined it
was a forum for growers to learn from other growers about seeds,
planting,pruning and a lot of other things. It was an actual exchange of
knowledge. 
 
From the posts lately it seems there is very little exchange of helpful
information, just my opinion! 
 
I now question the value of the Mallorn list?
 
I welcome any and all opinions?  
 
Bob Attaway
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Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 19:35:24 -0800
From: "kathie morgan" <fishrap@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: plants

Hi, Glenn!
David and I have planted the 
1180 Daletas
1231 Pukos
1200 Urena
833.5 Vanderschoot

Still under the grow light are the
1195.5 Glasier
1157 LaRue
725 K Morgan
1181 Urena

Two will get planted.
Thank you to the growers who gave us seeds (plus).
Kathie Morgan
- --


- ----------
>From: Glenn Peters <gpeters@ll.mit.edu>
>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>Subject: plants
>Date: Tue, May 9, 2006, 11:50 AM
>

> OK time to wake up the list..
>
> what is everyone planting this year?
>
> how is the season going so far?
>
> I'll start
>
> 1420 LaRue - up, and outside
>
> 1446 Eaton -  up, and outside
>
> 881 Beauchemin (Squash) up and outside
>
> 1443 Palmer - failed to germinate.
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