Re: Green mottle Bad ?


Andy:
        I must agree to some extent. I am a new grower, bought both
pumpkin & squash seed. The money at our weighoff is double for pumpkin.
        No way, near what you get in the US. $140 & $70 funny money.
        I decided that I wanted to play with the big boy's so I gave
my squash seeds away.
        Most people do not have the room to grow both therefore they have
to make a choice.
        Its a choice of being a small fish in a big pond, (pumpkins) or a
big fish in a small pond, (squash)
        No! I don't believe the money should be the same when you are competing
against a lesser # of squash than pumpkin.
        Personially I will grow what ever makes the most competition, that is
why I started this insane hobby.
        That's the view from here. (Should get things going)
                                                                Yours truly;
                                                                Bill Van
At 11:58 AM 11/15/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>Well, i suppose it's my turn.  I was one of the few here who interntionally
>planted a squash plant this year.  I planted an 815 Andersen, hoping for a
>squash and i got one.  Most people commented on the size, then on the
>color.  My reasons for planting a squash were both because i had never
>grown one, and also because I would have been able to enter another
>category at the weighoff.  If I had my way, there would still be two
>categories, squash and pumpkin. More than 50% of the color, and you're in
>that category.  The thing I would like to see is equal money.  All of us
>know that the only difference is color.  The plants are nearly physically
>identical.  It takes the same amount of work to grow each.  The thing is
>that everyone not associated with growing them have the image of an orange
>pumpkin etched into their mind, and this is what the sponsors pay for.  I
>think that in a few years, things will slowly change.  I don't think that
>we need more money for prizes, but more equal money.  Some places it is
>already starting, i think.
>
>Andy Wolf
>Western NY
>
>----------
>> From: Lyle Rockwell <rocky.r@cyber-quest.com>
>> To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>> Subject: Re: Green mottle Bad ?
>> Date: Sunday, November 14, 1999 11:58 PM
>> 
>> John,
>>     I used to feel like you did on this subject, until it happened to
>me.. My
>> whole Andersen 815 story from 1998 was well documented, and I didnt think
>I would
>> get over the fact that it was green , not orange.. When you only have so
>much
>> space to grow pumpkins  in, and then after all that prepping with this
>list,
>> buying videos, purchasing both Langevins books, it happened.. I got a
>squash from
>> a pumpkin seed. After some severe counseling from my fellow growers , I
>decided I
>> wasnt gonna go through with the abortion, just because of skin color. It
>too
>> needed to be loved, and after spending an entire season with "Dark
>Horse", I
>> found a new appreication for the green monsters.... And in fact, I too
>learned
>> that care is exactly the same as those orange ones, and the basic genetic
>makeup
>> is the same, although coloring is diferent.. But didnt we go through this
>back in
>> the mid 1800's with President Lincoln and some other colors? (Now there
>is a can
>> of worms for ya...) My prediction...... The outcome will eventually be
>the same..
>> green and orange , together...... No segregation from fruit color.... The
>> crossing has already been done with these two colors of fruits years ago
>in most
>> family trees, if you dont think so, go check out Mike Nepreny's site..
>Its all
>> there..  If beliefs are out there that squash dont belong, then why not
>take this
>> witch hunt to keep greenout of contests one step farther, why not have
>people
>> show up with seed parantage, and if it is found to have squash in its
>background,
>> it can not qualify as  "purebred".... Because in the true sense of AG
>plants, it
>> is now a hybrid, not purebred. if it has the squash makeup in its
>background..
>>     Is that my two cents, or my 2 bucks worth?
>
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