Re: easy to tell if it is squash...
I agree with Larry, Rocky, Brett, Nic, etc. A squash is all green, if they
are another color like orange, yeloowish, cream ,brown etc. with some green
etc. they are pumpkins, period. I agree with a grower's vote.
Thank You,
Don Chambers Warwood, WV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Checkon" <centrecomm@earthlink.net>
To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: easy to tell if it is squash...
> I also agree whole heartedly, squash just stand out. I feel that ratios
and grids are a bunch of nonsense and maybe the GPC steering committee
should take a look at this. Maybe an opinion survey is needed.
>
> Larry
>
> Nic Welty wrote:
>
> > I agree with this totally. From a genetic standpoint. The true green
specimens are the only true squash. The others are a mere enviromental
result. True squash are always easy to determine, no gray area, all green.
The problem is that the money for everything comes from companies and press
that want to see large orang globes. Therefore, it is bad policy to report
a winner that does not fit these sponsors preconceived idea of what a
pumpkin should look like. So the true classification will have to wait a
few years till I can get out of school and begin making money instead of
loosing it at such a crazy rate. I will sponser true green prize money, and
do my best to push the squash imposters back into the genetic class they
should be in. If there are a number of true green growers serious about
changing the rules now, I sugest pooling resources, and talking to sponsers.
Attempt to generate an aditional $5k national GPC money for squash. Then
maybe you can start tal!
> ki!
> > ng to the directors.
> > On another note. This will probably be the last you will be hearing
from me for awhile. I will still post occasional OVGPG updates to my web
page, but it has become clear that I need to retire from competative pumpkin
growing for a couple years. I am not doing proper justice to my pumpkin
growing or my school work at this point, so pumpkins will have to wait for
now. I will continue my genetic research, but that will be all. It was
great to be on this list, and to get to know so many great growers. I look
forward to seeing you at seminars, feild days ect. Best of luck to
everyone, and I will be back in a few years with 1500 pounders on every
plant.
> >
> > Nic Welty
> >
> > Lyle Rockwell <rocky.r@cyber-quest.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Sorry folks.. I had to chime in. I had long talk with quite a few
> > >growers yesterday, and it had to do with squash being squash, period.
> > >After watching the numerous fruit come in, it was VERY CLEAR that there
> > >were only 3 squash. A squash is, and always will be completely green or
> > >bluish green. If you looked at several fruit that had some orange, you
> > >can easily tell it was a pumpkin, but has some late season turning of
> > >color to green.
> > > The determining factors of 75/25 orange to green is a farce, it is
just
> > >as Glenn says, and I hate to agree with him.. haahaa.. Lets get
together
> > >with the GPC people in a chat some night, Hugh Wiberg and gang, and get
> > >this straightened out very soon. I know this list has had numerous
talks
> > >on this subject, and I dont really want to drag it all out, but if it
> > >looks like is was/or is a pumpkin with some greening going on, it is a
> > >pumpkin.. PERIOD... If at first glance on the fruit you say that could
> > >possibly be a squash but you arent sure, then it is definitely a
> > >pumpkin.. Because if you have ever seen a true squash, they stick out
> > >like a sore thumb...
> > > Yesterday John Michael Werking, Len Knauss and one other person had
> > >squash, easily identifiable. My conversation with Tony CIliberto on
this
> > >topic was just as I have described above... Pumpkin is pumpkin, and
> > >squash is a squash.. anything that could possibly be a pumpkin, is a
> > >pumpkin.. period..
> > >--
> > >Rocky Rockwell
> > >http://www.PGPGA.com
> > >http://home.cyber-quest.com/rocky.r
> > >
> > >A man who wants to do something, will always find a way.....
> > >
> > >A man who doesn't, will always find an excuse.....
> > >
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