I am an office administrator and a dance instructor. I have gardened all my life, but the pumpkins are a new adventure. This has been an interesting line of discussion. I have often wondered what some of you do besides growing giants. I am also done sulking and I bought "The Book" so next year I will be back at it. Elizabeth Gough 777 Quality Assurance (425)294-5332 A positive attitude is a powerful thing!